Is it a legit strategy to play every suited pocket

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It amazes me how many times I will see people play any two suited cards. Is this a legit strategy to chase a flush, even with pockets like J-4 or 8-5? Seems rather stupid to me.
 
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pockets are pairs, not j4/85.....and yeah its stupid to chase flushes pre.
 
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pockets are pairs, not j4/85.....and yeah its stupid to chase flushes pre.

Pocket cards is another name for hole cards. So J4 are pockets, JJ is a pocket pair.

Anyway, it's not a good strategy to play every connected card, whether it be suited or something like 89. The odds of flopping a made flush or a made draw is only 1%. Flopping a flush draw is 11%, but if you are playing 85 suited chances are your flush is beat even if you draw out.
 
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The guys playing J4 don't have a strategy, much less a legitimate one. 85s on the other hand I will play often ;)
 
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Pocket cards is another name for hole cards. So J4 are pockets, JJ is a pocket pair.

Anyway, it's not a good strategy to play every connected card, whether it be suited or something like 89. The odds of flopping a made flush or a made draw is only 1%. Flopping a flush draw is 11%, but if you are playing 85 suited chances are your flush is beat even if you draw out.

And in addition to what you said: Odds/probability of making a flush by the river 15 to 1
(or 6.25% chance)
Preflop flush chasing is -EV in the long run. Very -EV. :)

And something that might be a bit off-topic, but not too much :D

I was talking to my cousin and he asked me why i always fold to a raise with 89o, but (sometimes) i call the raise with 89s. It's a much better situation when you have the chances to connect with the board in 2 ways: either a flush, either a straight. :)

But here's my question: when do you decide that you can/should play a suited pocket? (i'm guessing most of you play suited hands like KQ, J9, QJ etc., not J4 or K2 etc.)
 
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Its ok to play suited connectors when their is an aggressive player is in the pot who can not fold big cards.
 
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Ist crazy impressive how often my opponents in the micros get their 6 % flush with their any two suited crap hole cards, but of course it is not a good Play.
They love any two suited cards, because it simply looks nice (i must admit too). :)
 
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Play every suited pocket?
No. But like a lot of hole cards, the probability of being able to play them goes up the later the position you have.
 
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Thanks for the feedback! I agree it is dumb and will wind up costing you in the long run, but it is just amazing how many people do it.
 
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I like playing any suited connectors over an 8 if I can look at the flop for cheap in a multi-table tournament.

I will enter a pot with A-anything suited if I'm in late position and everyone else before me has either limped or folded.

Any suited connectors lower than an 8 I usually only play from the button or blinds if no one has raised before it gets to me.
 
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"legit" is meaningless. As for if it's a winning strategy or a good one, no.
 
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My thought is there's a lot of questions to answer before this one.

What's your position? What's the table like in regards to aggressiveness?

If the table is willing to limp in when in SB, cool, then nearly anything might be a go """PROVIDING""" you're willing to fold a set or small flush (or flush draw). If you're early position at an aggressive table, to me, a fold every time unless it's a suited A, and then the odds mentioned above need to be taken into account.
 
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i think connectors or Ax is a good strategy to play early in the tournaments
 
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Consider the fact that, according to probability theory, there is only a 1% chance of flopping a flush when you have two suited cards in the pocket and you will realize that while suited cards may look nice, they are usually not as nice as they look.

Sure, you can get lucky but many times you will think you have the best hand and get beaten by a higher flush.

better to be selective on which sutied hands you play pre-flop
 
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