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spiderman637

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All questions are related to 3 conditions. One at EARLY PHASE, second at MIDDLE LATE PHASE, and third at FINAL TABLE....

I would love to know how many number of allins or re-raises{consider more than 75% of ur stack} infront of your position would it take for u to fold the following hands PRE-FLOP in these 3 situations...

HAND EARLY PHASE MIDDLE PHASE FINAL TABLE

1.)AK suited----------------?--------------------?------------------?
2.)AK offsuit----------------?--------------------?------------------?
3.)AQ suited----------------?--------------------?------------------?
4.)AQ offsuit----------------?--------------------?------------------?
5.)AJ suited-----------------?--------------------?------------------?
6.)AJ offsuit-----------------?--------------------?------------------?
7.)AT suited-----------------?--------------------?------------------?
8.)AT offsuit-----------------?--------------------?------------------?
9.)KK------------------------?--------------------?------------------?
10.)QQ----------------------?--------------------?------------------?
11.)JJ-----------------------?--------------------?------------------?
12.)TT----------------------?--------------------?------------------?
13.)99 to 66----------------?--------------------?------------------?
14.)55 to 22----------------?--------------------?------------------?

Just copy paste this table in ur reply post and fill in the numbers.That all...;)
 
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1.)AK suited----------------2--------------------2------------------3
2.)AK offsuit----------------2--------------------2------------------3
3.)AQ suited----------------1--------------------1------------------2
4.)AQ offsuit----------------1--------------------1------------------2
5.)AJ suited-----------------1--------------------1------------------2
6.)AJ offsuit-----------------1--------------------1------------------2
7.)AT suited-----------------1--------------------1------------------1
8.)AT offsuit-----------------1--------------------1------------------1
9.)KK------------------------2--------------------3------------------4
10.)QQ----------------------2--------------------2------------------3
11.)JJ-----------------------1--------------------1------------------2
12.)TT----------------------1--------------------1------------------2

Gap conception, we are calling all ins not raising all in. That is given standard read of table.
 
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come on guys, i need many peoples opinion in this matter...
So pls find a little time and repy to this post...
And thanks wolf for ur time...
 
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I can't answer this as it is dependant on alot of different criteria that makes each situation different. There's much more to it than just my own two cards.
Is this a freeroll question?
 
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Chart won't work

Have to agree with Poker Orifice on this one. The reason you're not getting answers is: There is no set answer to make decisions on all ins or reraises. Every situation is totally different. You have to be at the table. You get to know the players and their stack sizes. There are not 3 stages, the tourney is evolving constantly (probably at least at every level. Prize fund, number of players, and the list goes on. Way too much to consider to fill in the blanks on a chart.

I don't think this chart would help you even if it could be completed accurately. I also think most members would try to help you if they could.
 
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i agree with the 2 above. This is poker isn't about the cards you have, as much as it is the situations you are presented with while holding cards. If i have JJ on the button and a guy who has been going all in pre flop 2/3 of the time I am probably snap calling all-in. If I have the same hand and a guy who has play 1 hand in the last 3 orbits I am probably going to think long and hard about it and probably fold. There are millions of more sittuations that we can get into with just JJ on the button.
 
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I can't answer this as it is dependant on alot of different criteria that makes each situation different. There's much more to it than just my own two cards.
Is this a free roll question?
Yep, i know there are many factors to consider here, but i see at final tables that suddenly people start shoving allins hand after hand and hand...
And i am talking about final table where 1st prize is 300$, 2nd 200$, 3rd 100$., 4rth 70$, 5th 50$...And the buyin would be from 3$ to 6$...
 
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Pre-flop shoves are standard in high blinds (i.e. smaller raises or calls are often mistakes).
Optimal shove/call ranges depend on a lot of circumstances, stack sizes (of you and the other players, and your position relative to each other) and player tendencies.

Following a chart really doesn't work until you get heads up in high blinds. There are too many variables when more players are involved.
 
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As the blinds get higher in a tournament - an all-in bet becomes more and more popular because the blinds and antes are worth so much.

If the blinds were constantly 10/20 or so for the duration of the event, the majority of people would be knocked out later in the event, and the event would be a lot more about outplaying eachother post flop than shoving preflop.

A shove preflop when your M is low (or everybody's M is low) is a direct attempt to get everybody to fold, to pick up the blinds or antes - USSUALLY - since this becomes standard, when you actually have a hand, you shove for everything and hope your shove gets disguises as weekness.

Generally at these stages it's shove or fold for just about everybody at the table, as they're having trouble keeping up with the blinds.

Your original question is flawed - what is the blind structure of the tournament? What are my reads on players who are all-in? What are the stack sizes? What are the blinds and antes at this moment in time? How close to a new tier of money?

Given the choice between staying uninvolved in a hand and keeping my tournament life off the line with a hand like say . . . KK - or potentially moving up to become the table's chip leader if I can dodge everybody hitting a set/2 pr/str8/flush/A, I have to weigh far too many factors than just "Okay, six people are all-in ahead of me (by the way I would call with that many people all-in, not only are your pot odds ridiculous but you can expect hands like AK and AQ to have all their aces eaten up - unless of course I thought all the people being knocked out in the hand would move me up AND/OR I'm beaten and drawing dead with my outs to a set held in other players' hands -), that's two more than I'm allowed to call at this stage in the tournament."

You seem to be looking for a clear cut answer - to which there is none. The answer to most questions is "It depends." - and even with all the information on a given hand two players may play the same cards differently and get the same outcome.
 
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1.)AK suited raise?- raise? raise?
2.)AK offsuit raise? raise? raise?
3.)AQ suited raise? raise? raise?
4.)AQ offsuit raise? raise? raise?
5.)AJ suited call? raise? raise?
6.)AJ offsuit call? call? raise?
7.)AT suited call? call? raise?
8.)AT offsuit call? call? raise?
9.)KK raise ? raise ? raise?
10.)QQ raise? raise? raise?
11.)JJ call? raise? raise?
12.)TT call? call? raise?
13.)99 to 66 call? call? raise?
14.)55 to 22 call? call? raise?
 
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1.)AK suited raise?- raise? raise?
2.)AK offsuit raise? raise? raise?
3.)AQ suited raise? raise? raise?
4.)AQ offsuit raise? raise? raise?
5.)AJ suited call? raise? raise?
6.)AJ offsuit call? call? raise?
7.)AT suited call? call? raise?
8.)AT offsuit call? call? raise?
9.)KK raise ? raise ? raise?
10.)QQ raise? raise? raise?
11.)JJ call? raise? raise?
12.)TT call? call? raise?
13.)99 to 66 call? call? raise?
14.)55 to 22 call? call? raise?


How much raise in each case?
do u mean all 4x raise?
And no allins at all???
 
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