Did i make a resonable fold

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I was in a 400$ tourney I was in the final table I manage to pick up QQ I raised preflop to 5 bb ( I had 49 bb) someperson called the flop was
9 2 K I raised the other person raised I called the turn was J the person raised to half of my stack I folded after that and he showed QK what would you have done in that situation?
 
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if your gut was telling you to fold ... it was probably the right call. Either a King or a 10 would have beaten you ... and those cards ALWAYS come on the river !!

could have gone either way ... but the big question is ... how many chips did the raiser have ?? he could have easily been trying to bully you if his stack was a lot bigger than yours.
 
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Just wondering about that pre-flop sizing, were you doing that normally?

On the flop, if I'm understanding you correctly, you bet, he raised and you called. In thinking this through, I still go back to the pre-flop raise and I think you put far too many chips in because of that.

You could have lost a little less in my opinion, but again, it sounds like you didn't commit any more chips on the turn, which was good.
 
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Just wondering about that pre-flop sizing, were you doing that normally?

On the flop, if I'm understanding you correctly, you bet, he raised and you called. In thinking this through, I still go back to the pre-flop raise and I think you put far too many chips in because of that.

You could have lost a little less in my opinion, but again, it sounds like you didn't commit any more chips on the turn, which was good.


Agreed, the only think that maybe you can ajust is the pre flop raise, in the final table there's no need to raise 5x, after that, good fold on the turn . IMO
 
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beautiful fold . what can I say.
 
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u can always make all-in and waiting for ur 2-outs on river :) but u asking the question is this fold was good after writing the opp's hand, which was better then your / yes, it was well played hand and good fold
 
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You could have saved some chips by not betting after the flop with a K in it. He probably would have done like a 3bet to keep from losing you. Also you may have got to see the river cheap too, by checking the turn. But you did do the right thing by folding your QQ after his big raise. GL to you
 
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i think it was a good fold, stay alive for later
 
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'Living to fight another day' is never a bad decision.

The 5bb raise pre is steep, but only you know what was necessary at that table at that time. Would a 3bb raise have done the same thing? 2bb?

At a FT, KQ is almost always coming along.
 
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How close were you to folding the re-raise at the flop. Certainly you know a K is in his range after he called PF. Why did you stick around for the turn on a two outer?
 
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How close were you to folding the re-raise at the flop. Certainly you know a K is in his range after he called PF. Why did you stick around for the turn on a two outer?

After raising flop he should never have a K if he's a decent player... that's just a terrible raise on that board.. I would have put him on stuff like QJ JT FDs and Sets. You should remember that about this guy, could be important in the future.
 
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You could have saved some chips by not betting after the flop with a K in it. He probably would have done like a 3bet to keep from losing you. Also you may have got to see the river cheap too, by checking the turn. But you did do the right thing by folding your QQ after his big raise. GL to you

Question for you and everyone else.

By not betting the flop, you are telling everyone that you are weak and you learn nothing about your opponent's hand.

If you bet after the flop then you have a chance of pushing your opponent out. However if your opponent raises your bet then you know there is a good chance your opponent has that king beat.

I am not sure where you would have saved money by not betting the flop. If I was the opponent in this situation, I would have raised if there was a check by the OR after flop assuming he did not hit and I would represent a K in my hand. If he raises, I fold. If he calls, then I check the hand down the rest of the way or fold to any pressure.

Please know that I am not arguing with you but trying to understand and learn.
 
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Be happy he showed his cards. Because of it, you will think a lot of times was that good fold, or he just bluff on you ))
 
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I think you should just check/fold at flop, because you dont have overpair. Yesterday in one tournament i got QQ 3 times, and all time AK, or flash beat me..... after that i think QQ is not so good cards:D
 
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Good fold. Once that K came out and he is raising. There you go. He may have been just shoving but better to fold and continue good in tournament. Btw, how did you finish?
 
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I think you should just check/fold at flop, because you dont have overpair. Yesterday in one tournament i got QQ 3 times, and all time AK, or flash beat me..... after that i think QQ is not so good cards:D

Check - fold in this case is bad decision because of Cbet is better. We need to see what will do opponent if we makes Cbet, if re-raise (he has King high), if call (maybe small King, or less pair, or Ace high).
I think, post writer made good Cbet and fold to re-raise!
 
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K on the flop was not so scary card, but the J on the turn is giving him reasonable raise, so you fold.
 
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Me just training the math:
BB - 10k
SB - 5K
(Pre-flop)
15k(SB+BB) + 50k(Hero Raise) = 65k(Pot) + 50k(Villain Call) = 115k(Pot)
(flop)
115k + 30k(H. raise) + 60k(V. Re-raise) + 30k(H. Call) = 235k(Pot)
(turn)
235k + 190k(V. Raise) = 425k

Stack 380k left
Outs
2(QQ)+4(TTTT)=6 outs
6:1
Pot odds
425k:190k
2,23:1

Easy fold according to this odds!!
 
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Id prolly have done the wrong thing and raised so much he wouldnt have called.. nice lay down
 
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QQ preflop 3BB is OK, 5BB maybe too much, but once that K came out you are in trouble so a fold is the best call. :jd4:
 
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I think it's a good fold. And when in doubt I always go with my gut read. I would like to know more about this villain and his range especially for raising you on the flop. If he is almost never raising as a bluff then I think you can fold on the flop to his reraise. Do you know how he plays AK? Do you think he will 3-bet it? Cause that takes some Ks out of his range. It does smell a lot like KQ, KJ there but the sucky part is you have a blocker to the Q. Are there any ICM considerations or are you still 9/10 handed? There are a lot of smaller factors that you should take into consideration.
 
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