Did I make a bad no play?

wagon596

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I have a lot of respect for the opinions of the players here at CC. Want to hear your thoughts on my play at a $60 dollar buy-in tournament at Winstar Casino in OKLA.

I'll try to give all the info I can about the non-play. Starting chip stack $5,000.. levels every 15 minutes.

OK here we are, blinds 200 and 400,, I have around $3,000,,, I'm in the big blind,,, have 3 limps in front of me,,,I check (maybe a mistake ?) I have Ace, Nine of clubs.

The flop come 2,2,jack,,two clubs,,, I bet $800,,, one fold,, one call,,, last guy all in for my whole stack,,, if I had to do again I would call, but I folded,,, so did the other player.....

Your opinion on should I have called and why ? Pot odds ?
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The info is pretty low tbh
If there were so many limpers, chancers are one could have had either the 2 or the J. LAG limp with 23s or A2s and stuff like that in order to jump on a straight.

If someone had the 2 you would be drawing to the straight only. 9outs which give you a 36% chance.

Pot was 2200 when you bet he put you all in which means 4000.
You would be paying 1800 which is 40% of the pot in a 36% pot.

It's a desperate call. You either call to hit the straight or not.
In the event that the guy had the j you add 3 more outs which means 12 outs. In that case you would have a 48% chance and you could have taken it.

Since you were pretty much shortstacked at this point, you should have called on your draw because you had 4.5BB left so any good card you can play you should play it because their value increases at that point.

(small note - i am calculating the outs on the hopeful chance that both J and a 2 was of clubs, because if they weren't if the guy paired the board you have to remove J or 2 of clubs because they would give him a full house - rendering your straight useless)

By not betting you did not have any information about what the players had.
Truthfully they could have had JJ or 22 and had the full, even though in that case they could have just slowplayed it and that is pretty much out the way.

Stop entering pots without betting when you are already shortstacked. You either enter to play it or you just much and wait for a better hand.

A9s you limp in, you flop 2 clubs....Now what? you either shove on the spot or you raise preflop.
 
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The info is pretty low tbh
If there were so many limpers, chancers are one could have had either the 2 or the J. LAG limp with 23s or A2s and stuff like that in order to jump on a straight.

If someone had the 2 you would be drawing to the straight only. 9outs which give you a 36% chance.

Pot was 2200 when you bet he put you all in which means 4000.
You would be paying 1800 which is 40% of the pot in a 36% pot.

It's a desperate call. You either call to hit the straight or not.
In the event that the guy had the j you add 3 more outs which means 12 outs. In that case you would have a 48% chance and you could have taken it.

Since you were pretty much shortstacked at this point, you should have called on your draw because you had 4.5BB left so any good card you can play you should play it because their value increases at that point.

(small note - i am calculating the outs on the hopeful chance that both J and a 2 was of clubs, because if they weren't if the guy paired the board you have to remove J or 2 of clubs because they would give him a full house - rendering your straight useless)

By not betting you did not have any information about what the players had.
Truthfully they could have had JJ or 22 and had the full, even though in that case they could have just slowplayed it and that is pretty much out the way.

Stop entering pots without betting when you are already shortstacked. You either enter to play it or you just much and wait for a better hand.

A9s you limp in, you flop 2 clubs....Now what? you either shove on the spot or you raise preflop.

What are u talking about straights? He had a flush draw, no straight draw on the flop
 
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Considering you bet 800, I woulda snap called his all in. Do you think he would be betting so big with the full house there? I dont think so. So you are probably not drawing dead on the flop.
 
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What are u talking about straights? He had a flush draw, no straight draw on the flop

I was talking about a flush draw, not a straight. I said 9 outs so i meant a flush draw. I was too sleepy i guess.
 
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With little info on the table dynamics i would proberbly have checked the flop and tried to see the turn cheaply or fold to a large raise.
 
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