Originally Posted by suu18
so I should be hoping to push with a wider range in late position as a shortstack, and be happy to get a coinflip? I'm bubbling a lot with coinflips and even as a favorite, when I could probably just fold my way into the money (which would be much better than what I'm doing now).
Why are we assuming that we're going to be called? THink about it, if you're shoving 10bb (9bb whatever) in SB, what range of hands is BB going to be willing to call with????? And how often do you figure they'll have such a hand? (If they're only calling with top10%... then 9x they aren't calling you... even if villain is a ICM dumbodonktard, you still can be shoving way wider than you're suggesting... ie. T9s is a shove SBvBB).
If you let your stack get very small, then villain will be much more likely to call your shove (realizing that you should be then shoving atc... but even knowing you've been super tight (to a fault) they'll likely be getting good enough pot odds
to make the call... especially if there are antes involved.. & if by making the call it doesn't affect their stack to the degree where they won't have fold equity when they're shoving.
Something to consider >>>> Shove wide... call tight