I have trouble with maniacs at middle phase of mtts

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i play usually at stars 45 man mtts but i recently added some large field mtts to my schedule , i do well at 45 mans most players are very tight at middle phases so blind steals , resteals etc are all easy to work but the large field mtts are completely different , people 3 bet you all the time , if you try to resteal you get called down with hands like A6 and you can never blind steal successfully even on position , people will call you down with anything and then they will overbet you on the pot so you can never go into a normall showdown without risking all your stack , atm i play tight and wait for a hand to take them out but its really luck dependent because sometimes you may draw nothing... i feel like i dont play well at all , i watched some videos of wsop 2011 and i noticed most pro enter more pots with them with 3rd tier hands like kq or aj but their opponents didnt bet so aggresive all the time... so they could play a tpgd with ease , i dont have enough confidence to enter pots with them with such hands and it would be a luckfest most of the time so i was thinking what i can do but i cant find an answer , the only thing i can think is to stay tight and pray to draw something or even try to enter some pots with small pps and pray for trips but i dont know if its profitable at all , so what do you guys think? does anyone have a counter for this madness?
 
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Well I would say continue whatever strategy got you to that position, do you change your play style at this point in tournaments or stay the same?
Also something I'm trying to improve is locating the worst players at that stage and getting them heads up with probable garbage. Just find the weakest player at your table and try to get into a heads up play against them as often as possible.
 
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Try to stay out of confrontations at that point if your M-zone is sufficient enough to last for a few cycles. Let everyone else beat themselves up and donk themselves out. Wait for a decent hand to come to you, wait for the right opportunity for a pinhead to come up against you, and you will come out ahead. They will hand you their chips freely if you let them.
 
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it gets easier when you opponents are looser and too agg, against people who 3bet too much,
4bet bluff more
call with a wider value range
4bet a smaller value range
check raise flops that miss you both range
generally get it in lighter

agianst people who call too much
value bet thinner
bluff less
3bet them wider for value especially in position
 
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it gets easier when you opponents are looser and too agg, against people who 3bet too much,
4bet bluff more
call with a wider value range
4bet a smaller value range
check raise flops that miss you both range
generally get it in lighter

agianst people who call too much
value bet thinner
bluff less
3bet them wider for value especially in position

this is excellent advice. if you don't get everything he's saying, i would read some 3 and 4 bet articles / watch videos and come back to this post.
 
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If maniacs give you trouble, start giving other people trouble.
 
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in my opinion need just skip 1st 2 or 3 levels in mmt and play only strong hand like AK QQ KK AA, because true that there always been some players who push all chips with any 2 cards and hope luck. Anyway if they get luck in 1st levels and up they stack they stop pushing and you can play normal not bingo poker
 
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in my opinion need just skip 1st 2 or 3 levels in mmt and play only strong hand like AK QQ KK AA, because true that there always been some players who push all chips with any 2 cards and hope luck. Anyway if they get luck in 1st levels and up they stack they stop pushing and you can play normal not bingo poker

dont nit up against people shoving wide
 
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there is no reason to risk all your tournament in small blinds, maniacs risk they tournament then pot is like 150, there is no point. If you get strong hand against them you can double up and nit again till blinds become like 100/200, then you can steal some pots with 3bet, because they didnt think you bluff that, and plus call cost more, so people play carefully against nit players
 
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In STT's I love maniacs. Ty for letting me fold to 3rd place without even getting a hand.
 
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if you try to resteal you get called down with hands like A6 and you can never blind steal successfully
Don't even try to steal from maniacs, its a battle you won't win, nor do you need to. Concentrate on big pots.
people will call you down with anything and then they will overbet you on the pot so you can never go into a normal showdown without risking all your stack
This should be very profitable for you. Just don't play hands you aren't ready to commit to. You don't have to be nearly as strong to get all in against a player like this as you normally would, top pair is often plenty.
i watched some videos of wsop 2011 and i noticed most pro...
TV poker is not a good source for learning materials. Their decisions are based on hundreds of prior hands that aren't aired, and the underlying thought process (which is the important part) is completely unexplained.
 
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