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Reads on villain: not a great player, raising about 40% pre flop and 60 VPIP. Seemed to like betting out and wasn't letting average hands go, should have been out but caught a few good cards on the river that kept him in. Flopped trip kings so I decided to slowplay it thinking he'd bet into me which he did.

PokerStars - $1.29+$0.21|15/30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 2,390.00
UTG: 1,450.00
MP: 635.00
CO: 1,990.00
BTN: 1,700.00
Hero (SB): 3,030.00

Hero posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00

Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has A:spade: K:spade:

UTG calls 30.00, fold, CO raises to 120.00, fold, Hero raises to 240.00, fold, fold, CO calls 120.00

Flop: (540.00, 2 players) K:club: K:diamond: J:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 180.00, Hero calls 180.00

Turn: (900.00, 2 players) 9:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 690.00, Hero raises to 2,610.00 and is all-in, CO calls 880.00 and is all-in

River: (4040.00, 2 players) 8:club:
 
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BEAUTIFULLY DONE
you got your money in with waht was assumed to be the best hand by far, and you got your hook sunk in and you caught him all the way up. good job, im shure you had the best of it, unless youg ot coolered?
PS- i never knew Ps offereed a 1.29$ buy in lol .. kinda odd..

TTYL
 
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Flush draw AND a straight draw came up on the flop and you didn't do anything to protect your hand. You should have come over the top big and make him pay more than he should to chase or get the fxxx out.
 
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3-bet larger. Don't be a fish, bet the flop.
 
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Yea, preflop 3Bet is weak as hell and you should have absolutely come over the top on the flop. Way too many draws out there to hit big hands, so you're hand is good, but in trouble.
 
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I have to agree with the above posters, you should have bet more pre-flop, as for the flop, this is not a spot to slow-play as there are huge draws out there.

As for if you did anything wrong, I would have to say all of the above.

You seem to be a type of player who looks at his hand and not the texture of the flop, if so, you have to stop this now as it will drain your bankroll fast.

As for the type of villian you were up against, I love to play against players like that as they are the ones who you take out 8 times out of 10 from my experience.
 
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How I'd suggest playing this hand:
3bet to 340-380
flop cbet (you took the initiative preflop with your 3bet.. so why would you check here ever?) ~2/3 pot (or whatever amount sets you up so you'll have ~ nr. pot-sized bet on the turn which would be putting villain allin)
 
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meh I don't mind the 3bet sizing so much. given stack sizes you can easily get it in over 3 streets anyway. i guess i might make it 300 cos we're OOP.

bet flop small, 250 or so
 
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How I'd suggest playing this hand:
3bet to 340-380
flop cbet (you took the initiative preflop with your 3bet.. so why would you check here ever?) ~2/3 pot (or whatever amount sets you up so you'll have ~ nr. pot-sized bet on the turn which would be putting villain allin)

Because I was pretty sure I could check and he would bet into me.
 
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BEAUTIFULLY DONE
you got your money in with waht was assumed to be the best hand by far, and you got your hook sunk in and you caught him all the way up. good job, im shure you had the best of it, unless youg ot coolered?
PS- i never knew Ps offereed a 1.29$ buy in lol .. kinda odd..

TTYL

$1.50 buy in, $0.21 rake.
 
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I have to agree with the above posters, you should have bet more pre-flop, as for the flop, this is not a spot to slow-play as there are huge draws out there.

As for if you did anything wrong, I would have to say all of the above.

You seem to be a type of player who looks at his hand and not the texture of the flop, if so, you have to stop this now as it will drain your bankroll fast.

As for the type of villian you were up against, I love to play against players like that as they are the ones who you take out 8 times out of 10 from my experience.

Reason I didn't bet more pre flop was because I was happy to go up against this player on the flop as it was very possible he was calling with a weaker ace, if an ace comes out I'm pretty sure hes looking to get all his chips in. Againt most other players I probably would have 3-bet to 300ish.
 
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Reason I didn't bet more pre flop was because I was happy to go up against this player on the flop as it was very possible he was calling with a weaker ace, if an ace comes out I'm pretty sure hes looking to get all his chips in. Againt most other players I probably would have 3-bet to 300ish.

40% vpip players means there will be quite a lot broadway and suited stuff in his range.

As said bet/RR more preflop and on flop....you only really started betting after the possible draw completed.
 
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Flush draw AND a straight draw came up on the flop and you didn't do anything to protect your hand. You should have come over the top big and make him pay more than he should to chase or get the fxxx out.
Well, dont get out, but make him pay more to draw. Flat call is no good, C/R woulda been sweeter...
 
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What do you do when a guy bets, re-raises pre, and then just checks the flop? This stinks of high heaven to me, not sure that knowing he will bet into you is a good enough reason not to bet the flop here.
 
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What do you do when a guy bets, re-raises pre, and then just checks the flop? This stinks of high heaven to me, not sure that knowing he will bet into you is a good enough reason not to bet the flop here.

He felt like a very weak player who wasn't paying attention to what other peoples bets meant, it was the first time I raised pf in that game and the fact that he didn't get out of the way says alot about the player.
 
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40% vpip players means there will be quite a lot broadway and suited stuff in his range.

As said bet/RR more preflop and on flop....you only really started betting after the possible draw completed.

Yea that was a mistake on my part, when the flush draw was completed I thought **** this and shoved. In the end he turned over A7o and made his A high flush on the river after the all in had happened.
 
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if you are going to slow play i like your line - there's plenty of combos with clubs in that will call turn
 
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Well, dont get out, but make him pay more to draw. Flat call is no good, C/R woulda been sweeter...

No, no, no - make the opponent have 2 choices 1) to over pay (not just pay more) for his draw or 2) get out.
 
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We don't want villain to get out, we want to extract value from our hand.
 
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You should had 3-bet before the draw completed. If the fish was one that is chasing flushes he would call even an all in. After the draw was completed to a possible flush why did you shoved? You should had just called and see what he was doing on the river. It was unlucky that the river card was a club but untill the river you did not valued when you should and tryed desperately to make him fold when he was pot comitted already.
 
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you can get value from QQ, Jx, Kx, straight draws and random clubs.
 
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Depends on how much I think he'll call, probably 400-500.
 
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