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RamdeeBen
Legend
Silver Level
Again, a bad night. A night where I think if I didn't push when I did I could of quite easily "limped" in the money and maybe even possibly gone on to win the tournament. So an 18man SnG. I'm second in chips in one game and 1st in chips in and even though I'm like 4times bigger stack than the lower ones and even where I'm 1st out of 5 in the other I'm still only around 10bb/s yet according to Colin Moshman it's still time to push. How does this work out?..
I mean basically I ended up pushing in both tournaments where I had 10bb/s or less and lets bear in mind the shortest stacks who do this in every tournament willl fold all the way til their forced to go all-in or blinded away. Recently since I've been following this pushing game for SnG's there are ALWAYS without fail short stacks who are 1bb/s 2 and 3bb/s who folding and liming in the money..and I end up getting called by either second in chips or some someone who can put me in the lower range of BB's. So next hand again I'm allin and within 1 or 2 hands from 1st or 2nd I end up busting outside the bubble and this has hapened CONSISTENTLY..
What the hell ? Then you watch the tables and see these short stacks fold all day get one double up get another good hand and end up winning. I used to play and push with maybe 3/4bb's and got PROFIT, now im losing consistently yet I'm still being told it's the correct move and the ICM calculator says it is too im just so unconvinced.
All it feels like to me is i'm putting myself out of a postion to deffo cash and potentially with the tournament by pushing when I could just wait and let these smaller stacks stack off with each other. You don't realise how annoying this becoming for me...
If I recorded a session of xamont of tables would some SnG player who plays this way and turns aprofit look at the video and see wtf is going on?
It is winding me up! ARrrrg
UPDATE: Just thought I'd let you know, in my 45man tournament, im3rd in chips, 8 left 7 get paid and stupidly im still taking this bad advice. I'm under 10bbs yet according to MOSHMAN and all other things out there it is now time to PUSH. there are 2 stacks who both have 1.5bbs and I could EASILY of made the money. Of course I push in the cutoff with A,10s. Good push, correct? Exactly right. I get called by 2nd in chips with A,Q and bust.
How can this work really? I mean its very common for a table INCLUDING chip leader to be all under 10bbs so what the hell??? It's like you play tight early then towards the end "just go donk of your chips np" Gets me so mad..
I've never played like this, my pushing range is like 4bb/s and when I was playing like this if i loaded up 10 tables i could gurantee mysef that I would at least cash and make a profit. Now I'm consistently loading up 10 tables and its no uncommon for me to even cash in one. So im just donking of my money $10.00 at a time...
I know full well its hapening everytime and its draining me big time..I'm doing something I dont feel is correct yet all these successful SnG grinders do it and turn over profits yet im doing exactly the same yet I've lost so much over the course of 100 games. It can't be just coinicendace can it and I'm riding bad? Cos everytime I push with a hand I'm thinking "this is stupid"
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
POKER ORFICE or anyone could maybe sweat me doing this or something. Or I could record a session to show you an example of this annoying shite..
I mean basically I ended up pushing in both tournaments where I had 10bb/s or less and lets bear in mind the shortest stacks who do this in every tournament willl fold all the way til their forced to go all-in or blinded away. Recently since I've been following this pushing game for SnG's there are ALWAYS without fail short stacks who are 1bb/s 2 and 3bb/s who folding and liming in the money..and I end up getting called by either second in chips or some someone who can put me in the lower range of BB's. So next hand again I'm allin and within 1 or 2 hands from 1st or 2nd I end up busting outside the bubble and this has hapened CONSISTENTLY..
What the hell ? Then you watch the tables and see these short stacks fold all day get one double up get another good hand and end up winning. I used to play and push with maybe 3/4bb's and got PROFIT, now im losing consistently yet I'm still being told it's the correct move and the ICM calculator says it is too im just so unconvinced.
All it feels like to me is i'm putting myself out of a postion to deffo cash and potentially with the tournament by pushing when I could just wait and let these smaller stacks stack off with each other. You don't realise how annoying this becoming for me...
If I recorded a session of xamont of tables would some SnG player who plays this way and turns aprofit look at the video and see wtf is going on?
It is winding me up! ARrrrg
UPDATE: Just thought I'd let you know, in my 45man tournament, im3rd in chips, 8 left 7 get paid and stupidly im still taking this bad advice. I'm under 10bbs yet according to MOSHMAN and all other things out there it is now time to PUSH. there are 2 stacks who both have 1.5bbs and I could EASILY of made the money. Of course I push in the cutoff with A,10s. Good push, correct? Exactly right. I get called by 2nd in chips with A,Q and bust.
How can this work really? I mean its very common for a table INCLUDING chip leader to be all under 10bbs so what the hell??? It's like you play tight early then towards the end "just go donk of your chips np" Gets me so mad..
I've never played like this, my pushing range is like 4bb/s and when I was playing like this if i loaded up 10 tables i could gurantee mysef that I would at least cash and make a profit. Now I'm consistently loading up 10 tables and its no uncommon for me to even cash in one. So im just donking of my money $10.00 at a time...
I know full well its hapening everytime and its draining me big time..I'm doing something I dont feel is correct yet all these successful SnG grinders do it and turn over profits yet im doing exactly the same yet I've lost so much over the course of 100 games. It can't be just coinicendace can it and I'm riding bad? Cos everytime I push with a hand I'm thinking "this is stupid"
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
POKER ORFICE or anyone could maybe sweat me doing this or something. Or I could record a session to show you an example of this annoying shite..
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