I was at the ft when this happened

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I was playing at the ft at my pub ;eague tournament on Tuesday i had about 16000 chips the blinds are 300-600 and i was in the hi jack position one away from the button when it was my turn to act i had a9 off suit i decided too raise too 2300 total the next player to act was taking a long time too think about what he wanted too do mean while a player next to him calls out of turn him because he was in the small blind for 300 he threw in a 2000 chip. NOW the person who was suppose to act gets confused with what goes on and he folds. Now the player that acted out of turn decided all of a sudden too go all in. I thought that to come from calling out of turn to shoving all in was very suspicious after a few minutes i decided too call his last 2700 on top of the 2300 i raised. When i called he filliped over pocket qq lucky for me i hit a ace on the flop and took him out he was not happy and the guy next too me really was unhappy he said he folded pp of 10s and he would have hit a str8. so did i make the right call and what would u do differently,
 
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how many players left? what was the structure? stack sizes? table dynamics?
 
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I would have called the floor, unless he announced raise, he cannot put more chips in, its a string bet....would have given you time to think about it, you problably should have folded, but nothing wrong with luck ;)

It would have taken extreme will power for me to not say 'serves you right' when I sucked out.
 
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blkmoney12 said:
I was playing at the ft at my pub ;eague tournament on Tuesday i had about 16000 chips the blinds are 300-600 and i was in the hi jack position one away from the button when it was my turn to act i had a9 off suit i decided too raise too 2300 total the next player to act was taking a long time too think about what he wanted too do mean while a player next to him calls out of turn him because he was in the small blind for 300 he threw in a 2000 chip. NOW the person who was suppose to act gets confused with what goes on and he folds. Now the player that acted out of turn decided all of a sudden too go all in. I thought that to come from calling out of turn to shoving all in was very suspicious after a few minutes i decided too call his last 2700 on top of the 2300 i raised. When i called he filliped over pocket qq lucky for me i hit a ace on the flop and took him out he was not happy and the guy next too me really was unhappy he said he folded pp of 10s and he would have hit a str8. so did i make the right call and what would u do differently,
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CO is one off the button, HJ is the one before that.

Umm, tbh it might be a bad call but 2300 out there and 2700 on top with a 16k stack you might be able to justify this (don't flame me for this) the player with QQ is a plonker, if he called out of turn then its a call, I don't see why he was allowed to ship it.

This game seems super nitty, people folding TT? I guess the 4x raise was a bit big, depends on table dynamics.
 
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Eh? It was in no way a bad call, OP needs like 20% equity v villians range, clear call. Certainly should'nt have took afew mins to do math.
 
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Sort of a mandatory call with A7 but that pf raise was ridiculous. A raise to 1500 or so would have allowed you to get away from the hand if the button or blinds shove. You were in the cutoff not the hijack.
That out of turn limp shove should not have been allowed. Was there a dealer? He should have been forced to honor his call. The button folded because the SB called??? How weird is that?
 
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Am I the only one who thinks Oz needs to come to the states & start a dealer school?
 
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LOL - there are already plenty of better dealers and teachers than me in the States. You've got aliengenius, for starters :)

Action preflop was all kinds of wrong. Once villain calls (even though it was out of turn) it's binding, he can't then decide to shove. So no idea why that was allowed.

Once it has been allowed though I think I probably call. 2700 more with 7900 in the pot, we can knock someone out and we've still got over 15BB if we call and lose. Villain could conceivably be shoving any pair, maybe even worse aces, and we're getting reasonable odds even if we're up against 99-KK. AA and AT+ obviously have us in bad shape but given villain is so short we have to give him a wider range than that.

Table dynamics might somehow dictate a different action, but I think I'm OK with calling.
 
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OzExorcist said:
Action preflop was all kinds of wrong. Once villain calls (even though it was out of turn) it's binding, he can't then decide to shove. So no idea why that was allowed.
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Bar League may be part of the issue. This happens at a Poker Room and the dealer lets it happen, I call for the floor.
 
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if someone pulls this sort of cr*p on me i am immediately calling for for the floor

forget the out of turn thing for a second, imagine if you raised the guy then calls, then a moment later he says "actually i changed my mind, i am all in" everyone would probably laugh at how thats clearly not allowed

as for the huge raise you made pre, thats horrible :) but as played its got to be a call as others have said
 
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