how you play small pairs utg,utg+1,mp......

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need advice on how you play small pairs early position.the good players here on cc seems to agree not to limp utg,utg+1,mp....etc......lay it on me....tell me how you play them.im talking about pairs less then 77 of course!
 
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In small pairs I almost always do a pass

In small pairs I almost always do a pass. Note when one of the players goes all-in with a small pair of hands against two overcards, for example AK or AQ, then in 80% -85% of hands the player with a small pair of loses. I constantly pay attention to this. I do not know why this is so, although according to statistics this result should be quite different. Spend an experiment, count how many hands with a small pair you win against two over cards and how many will lose, and you'll see that I'm right. Pairs 99-1010 are much more likely to win, approximately 65% ​​-70%. I have been watching this for a long time.
 
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From EP, Id drop all the low PPs and most of the mid pairs too unless Im deepstacked AND THE TABLE IS DEEPSTACKED TOO.

Dont limp, it just looks uggg!!!, For some reason people think we are playing limit poker preflop and no limit post flop but anyways

Open for a raise and if you open from EP and miss, you still have the range advantage to rep high card boards that miss your hand. when you limp, you lose all ability to do this post flop
 
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Way off on the stats dimon. Much closer to 50-50. Under pair is a slight favorite.
 
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This is completely game(6max or 9 and cash or tournament), stake, table and player dependent. I'll answer as if were in a MTT, 9max, $20 buy-in, well balanced table with the two player two my left being LAGs, the blinds being TAGs and recreational for everyone else and lets say from LoJack because more than likely any earlier position I'm going to fold. I would raise 2bb. If reraised by the LAGs I would call and try to outplay them on the flop. If any type of cold 4 bet comes I easily lay down the hand. If I was 3 bet and myself or the LAGs(Hijack and CO) we last to act I'd call. Any other texture I fold to a 3bet as well. My concern would never be how many people were in the hand because low pockets do well in multi hand pots. My only concern would be getting to the flop for a reasonable price that's not a 4bet or calling a 3 bet that has a good likelihood of me having to lay it down. Now if I've already shown a low pocket pair in this context I'm probably going to get much more aggressive to represent a polarizing range or call to show a more condensed range. These choice would depend on the tables level or aggression. After I made that choice I'd play preflop according to the players actions.
 
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Ultra short i will open shove,with some awkward short stack 15-25bb i will just fold em from utg,and if i have big stack than minreise open and in multiway if i miss i will not cbet only cbet on some dry boards against one villan.
 
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It's usually better to pass up these hands in early position. However if your table is tight you can raise and take down some small pots. If you're shortstacked I would fold a small PP unless your in cutoff+. Too many times you will be dominated with higher pockets or a flip for your tournament life.
 
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As for me, I do not play small pairs from an early position, I just dump them like garbage.
 
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A pass or a significant raise.
 
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Depends on my stack size. If it's of a good size (I mean big enough) I would raise. And what happens more often is that I don't have a good stack so I fold without any regrets. And if my stack size is very low then it's push. But don't listen to me. My strategy sucks so far T_T
 
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If you are in the worst possible position preflop, why not limp and then flat call a possible 3x bet by another player in a better position? Obviously you want to hit the set with your low pair and if you don't you should be prepared to fold.
 
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Small pairs early at a full table = FOLD. I would never even think twice. You run the risk of getting into a big pot with a hand you really don't want to be there with. You are also putting yourself in a situation where you need to make tough decisions.

Easy decisions = good


Tough decisions = bad
 
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Usually I drop small pairs, but it all depends on my stack and the statistics of the players sitting at the table.:cool:
 
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In the early stages of the tournament to see who can limp fold a lot of chips will not lose.In the middle or late stage of the tournament if you have a good stack...
 
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i hate low pairs. only if you have position. when flop comes any higher card wins. heads up its a lot better.
 
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Hi.
It depends on the format of the tournament I play.
Every situation is different, so I do not have a standard for example.
Good luck.
 
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Fold any of that in bad position if not a) in complete chiplead or b) on a table where almost nobody is raising pre-flop.
 
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With low pairs I will raise everytime in, if anyone makes a 3bet I will fold, some times in according on the tournament stage and my stack I will call a 3bet, if in flop I got trips I will raise or check if I had a 3bet on the flop, and will wait for the villain action.
 
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I would only call to see the flop cheap, if the table is aggressive I will fold as you will not see a flop cheap.
 
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Depends on the situation. I fold sometimes or go all in if im short stack in the later rounds. I don't go set mining too much unless its really cheap. The one in 8.5 times I can catch a set isn't very appealing to me. Especially considering even if you do it can be beat by a flush or straight.
 
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This is, in my opinion, somewhat of a religious debate. By that I mean everyone's got their opinions and its likely no one is right.

Small pocket pairs in early position are very hard to play. Most of the time you are only playing them to hit your set on the flop. I'm always playing small pairs <77 almost solely for set value.

Opening small pocket pairs in EP is a high variance play - you do need to ensure that you are able to get the max value when you do flop sets. Also, how comfortable are you playing those pairs when you don't hit a set on the flop?

Don't open or even play small pp if you're going to fold to a 3bet pre.
 
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It depends on your stack, from utg you have to raise, if you connect the set you could win many chips, and if you do not connect the set, is easy fold.
 
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I play small pairs in late position, because you can see
how many players you have to play against, how big the bet
you have to call is and if you don't hit the flop you fold.
 
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If you never play small pairs in early position then what hands can you represent when the board comes out all low? You want to be able to represent strong hands on all boards so low pocket pairs are a good way to make strong hands on low card boards.
 
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Here's what I consider (that I can think of now):What's my bankroll?
How many after do I think may bet and what amount?
Where do I stand overall - average?
Do I feel I can make it to the flop at a small cost?


Definitely not an easy decision to make. Maybe not a good risk on an aggressive table, however, with a little lady luck and the right opportunity arises and you hit the set and the flop shows in your favor.....
 
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