How can you control your rebuys? even after you win big.

Hi, I have a major tilt issues to rebuying.
I usually enter tournaments that range from $1-$11 and sometimes I can't control the way I rebuy.
How does the poker community deal with rebuys?
I'm on a fairly good winning streak.
I got 3rd in a 250 guaranteed tourney winning $36
I got 1st in a night owl mico winning $78
I got 1st in a Early bird $500 deep tourney winning $140
I got first in another night owl micro winning $81
Also 5th in another tourney winning $66
and today I won 2ndst in an Early bird winning $101

I lose almost half of my winning to rebuys and sometimes in cash games.
I want to know your guys tips and advice to deal with this and how can I avoid cash games.


sounds silly I know.lol:hello: :hello:

Proper bankroll management & discipline, easy to say, sometimes hard to do.
You can find a number of threads addressing both these topics here at CC.
Nice stretch of run good you have going, good luck & welcome to the forum.

Awesome! Plant this number - 15% of bankroll at any given time to use - max!

onebourbon said:

Awesome! Plant this number - 15% of bankroll at any given time to use - max!

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I dont always agree with that, the money added CC games are a good +ev even if you only have 5 dollars in your account I still would play them.

pifan said:

I dont always agree with that the money added CC games if you only have 5 dollars in account I still would play them.

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Al my friend....let's do a side bet tomorrow - the social media game - even if we r not on the same table - take down a table at showdown with 72off..... lol

(or half price - allin pre-flop )

damn...forgot - u can't

Admittedly I am awful at BRM... I just blasted off $1300 in winnings at an avg stake of $9 in 5 days in 1 nights because I got frustrated.
That said, when I play well and within the BRM I know works for me I excel.
Look at your itm %, avg ROI and number played with AFS and extrapolate from there to equate what your recommended buying vs bankroll % is.
While it varies slightly from person to person even a decent amount you should be sticking to, even with a high ITM and low AFS a sheer minimum ~50 buyins with a descending applicable buyin rule, aka you have $500 you could play only 1 $11 if you dropped to $499 you would be relegated to $9.8x buyin and below it has been a good guideline for me.
Guideline is important here of course because as said earlier many tours carrier a higher equity that others due to a variety of factors; prize pool buyin field size and strength as well as payout % etc.
Weigh time available against your BR and expectation maybe its better if you forgo some weeknight games and double down on weekend bigger guars? etc
GL keep us posted

I wouldn't avoid cash games totally, but you might want to play short instead of buying in for the full amount allowed. I know this helps me since tournament play deals with push/fold so often I find that I am better equipped to play when I am shallow since I can't be bluffed on the end as easily or make poor decisions later in the hand.

I rarely rebuy into a tournament after I have busted, I find that you end up needing to go much further to actually make money since a min cash often doesn't even get you all the money you invested back. If I am rebuying it is because the table I was at was very weak and figures to remain so. I've seen some players rebuy 10 or 11 times to the same tournament and then even when they cash they still end up sinking in more money then they actually make.

rebuys should be based on your tourney equity, ie how much will the rebuy or add on help your equity

it sounds like you've already identified your strengths and weaknesses.

You are doing well at MTTs and losing it all back in cash and rebuy tourneys.

so, the way I see it you have 2 options

A) focus on your strengths. as in don't play cash and rebuys anymore
B) drop down in stakes in cash and rebuys and reexamine your fundamentals

I suppose there is really a 3rd option too which is to just keep pissing away your winnings and basically breaking even. If that makes you happy and you don't rely on poker as an income, then that is OK too....but presumably you don't want to continue this way or you wouldn't have made this thread...

So, for example for myself I've identified that I am a winning player at the $100-$200 live tourney range. I am a break even player at the $300-$500 range and I am a losing player at the $1,000+ range. ouch! it hurts to admit it outloud but the numbers don't lie.

So what to do?

well, focus on playing more $100-200 games. I'm playing some $300-500 games for practice when the opportunity arises and re-working the fundamentals of my game. And I'm not really going to play any more $1,000+ events for a while until I start beating the $500 games.

But wait...there's more. I don't play poker for a living, I play poker for fun and so I'll allow a caveat that if I make enough profit during the year I can allow myself 1 wsop bracelet event no higher than $1,500 as a "treat" not because I think it is a winning poker decision, but because it is something that I really want to do so I look at it as an entertainment or "vacation" budget. It still comes out of my poker bankroll, but I'm not using strict bankroll management principles and I'm ok with that. I'm not deluding myself, I'm making a choice for other reasons that earning money.

So understand your motivations and goals and then make a plan accordingly.

Wow thank you! soo much insight in one post! I wish I read this earlier. I just blew off almost all of my bankroll again in cash games And yes I will take your advice in the future.
I don't rely in poker as my main income but it would help to win big one day.
I too play for fun! and that's all that matters for me right now.
Thanks again

I don't play cash games ,they bore the crap out of me,so I can't help you there.As far as rebuy tourneys go that's easy go in with a set amount your willing to spend and that's it. You spent your limit you busted ,better luck next time.Take a break for a few hours to disengage from your present tourney.

I mainly rather play freezeouts. But some sites offer you a possibility to latereg straight into (usually larger) add-on or close to it. You might want to test that possibility.

Other game-tactic possibility is just play tight during rebuy-period. Since stacks are quite deep and many players very loose during that time it is usually very +EV. Just remember to change gears after add-on, or you'll be blinded out

It seems the issue isn't the re buys, but more the over aggression to accumulate a monster stack in the beginning.
It sounds like you are good at the tourneys, just you only maintain focus after the re buy is gone. I would work on that.

Just avoid cash games till you have enough cushion to play. Cushion is important cause those chips are now tools and if you are only thinking about the money you wont play as well. Cash games are good practice, but only play when you have enough to lose.

The best BRM for mtts should be 100x the buyin for bankroll.You musnt go over the recommended limit.

i alot 10 buyins for any rebuy i am playing. stay solid i usually gamble the first couple in optimal spots. i generally dont allow my 10 buyins to exceed 10% of my roll or i just dont play the rebuy

sounds good to me (Y)

I looked up Bank roll management on Youtube and found this video.
What better way to get insight from a pro and better than that an educated pro with a degree.
I found a lot of clear insight with his stategy and hope to use it in the future.
What do you guys think about this?

I didn't manage to see the video,
but I assume it would say something like;
'get people to deposit to your ponzie scheme, then take that money and use it to fund your playing, hey presto, BRM'.

You should try to avoid tourneys with unlimited rebuys. Try to play some with 3rebuy max or maybe multi entry ? If you dont like them, make a rule and just stick to it. For example never make more than 5 rebuys, and if you pass the limit than do not play poker for 1 day or something like that. Maybe it could help you. Try to find some books for this specific matter.