Originally Posted by Arjonius
I'd like to know the reasons why those people who think it's a shove or fold situation with 35 BB have reached this conclusion.
I'm one of those people, so I'll give it a shot.
For me personally, I fold. There are just too many ways 99 can get me into trouble. I'm going to make a lot more money by outwaiting the two smaller stacks, so that's exactly what I'm going to do.
For someone who does not want to fold, however, I did advise shove instead of call or raise. With someone who has a large range like that, I figured that we could get him to fold. Even though we have 35 BB, if we call or raise such that he calls (I'm assuming he will call most raises here), I don't see many flops that help us. So I feel like unless I can steal here, I'm just throwing chips away because I don't have a post flop game for this situation (i.e. his range is too large and my hand is too weak).
That said, you have opened my eyes to one more option: set mining. Just call him hoping for a set. If you get it, great. If not, fold. The more I think about it, this may in fact be the best option. Ironically, even catching a set here is death. So I think you've got to go for the real money
and that's a fold right from the start.
I see no need to play this hand, so my advice really should have just been fold. So there, updated advice!
Out of curiosity, how do you think he should have played it?