How to play in the later stages of the tournament with 10 big blinds ?

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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:
 
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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:
With only 10 BBs, you are in no position to be raising 2.5 BBs. Especially if you're considering folding to a 3bet. Your options are to either shove or fold.

The only time this might be a good idea would be if you have AA in LP against an aggressive opponent. Then raising small to set the trap would be fine.

Also, even if your opponent has more chips than you, it's all about effect stacks. Your opponent can not win more than what you have in your stack. So, after your 2.5 BB raise, you only have 7.5 BBs left. Your opponent can only raise you 7.5 more BBs to put you all-in and no more. So, it doesn't matter if they have 100 BBs more than you, they're only shoving for 7.5 BBs.
 
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once you reach ten bb,s your options are lilimited.pick you spot and push it all-in-you have less than 2 orbits befor you blind out -ide push any ace or 2 painted cards and hope i hit the flop-i think with m-factor less than 10 you shoulda been pushing all-in around13-15 bb,s or better yet you might want to review what happened to get you to under 10 bigs,was it a bad beat-did you make a mistake
 
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I red somewhere something about this. In the article was said that when your stack is under 10-12 big blind you have to go all in in first good position and hand.
 
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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:

I think that in such a situation, what you did was stupid it is better to bet or check and see the flop
 
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Every player with a fair amount of tournament knowledge will tell you all in or fold. It is better to bet all in than call all in since you can either win by getting folds or win by winning an all in vs their hand.
 
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When the big stack bully puts you all in, you better call with your good hand, because he has a wider range of hands then players with little stack. So in this case you you do not need a premium hand. I do agree with the others that you should have gone all in to pick up the pot in the first place.
 
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what ohshootmybad said. 10bb you are pot commited at any pot you get in (even if you are at BB)
like you said that raise of 2500 from 10000 stack. you have no bet value. any limp will get called of.
 
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Open shove range with premium cards before reach blinds, when into blinds open and see what happens.
What is your image will affect opponent decisions.
 
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Shove or fold, Thats what i would do
 
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if your getting bullied you have to call, raising with 10bb is almost not doable in my book, its shove or fold imo. so at your discretion is the hand good enough to risk your tourney life/cashing or wait for a better spot? you also have to take note where you maybe able to make steals vs weak players etc and make your moves accordingly at that point.
 
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well any ace is good in that stage of tournament or king juste big raise or all in.....
 
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10BB stack is not for raise, it's all in or fold , plus that the ante.. is making the blind to looks even bigger. You have to read any post for the BBs in MTT games , 10-15-25-35-45+ .. low normal big .. etc ,
 
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Only if you have premium hands slow play them with 2.5 raise and then go all in , or else continue if you see the flop and if it helps you so when you have a made manster hand (sets most of the time ) go on slow playing .
Most other cases there isn't an alternative , with 12-10 blinds or less just shove , you are pot committed , if you have 1000chips ,10 blinds ,you only have less than 5 rounds of game play (3.5-4) . So if I were you any good Ax , any good paint cards I would shove .
If you are low stacked you shove like a big stack , you are forced to play a wider range . Of cource the bigger stack would always have a bigger wider range so need to worry if he shoves himself . He might not have such a good hand as you think he should...
 
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i really dont like your raise sizing with 10bbs, you cant really raise fold, a raise call is weak and you are committed with whats already in the pot

maybe try min raising vs villans you think will fold
 
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As said, it's all-in or fold at 10bb, even 15 is borderline to raise fold

Maths 9handed:
BB+SB+antes=2.4 BB in pot
if you raise say 2.5 BB from MP then and Button shoves for 10BB total effective covering you 4.9BB in pot + 10 raise = 14.9 and you have to call 7.5 you need about 33% equity to break even which you will pretty much always have versus any range.

Of course ICM is different for tournaments than cash so your equity gain is less than the chips you win which are more valuable than the chips you lose. However, 7.5BB is going to be hard to find a better spot than 2:1 right now.
 
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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:

ahhh very good question.its all luck in my opinion. if you have a storng hand....go for it!!!
 
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i think the right way is waiting for big hand and push
 
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If I have a good hand in this situation PF with 10 BB I'll push. As played I call.
 
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Call and hope for the best. Your prolly beat, but with your stack size ya gotta gamble.
 
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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:
At,this point the strategy is shove/fold,raising 3xbet or like this is correct when u are trying to trap your opponent and your hand is AA,KK in other cases you have to shove or fold this is my advise ))
 
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In general open shoving is the only recourse once you are that low. Since the shove ranges were already figured out long ago, it is easy to find shove charts on line where the math of the shove ranges are listed based on your stack and position.

I like the charts by Jennifear. Just google Jennifear shove charts and you will find them.
 
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With just 10 big blinds I'm not raising 2.5x unless I have Aces. Otherwise, I'm looking for spots where I can go all-in, and/or where I can still the blinds (fold equity). 10 big blinds does not give you enough room to maneuver in an MTT especially since you know you are going to have maybe 5 big blinds if your lucky when the blinds go up so I'm looking for spots to go all in and spots to steal depending on the other player's stack.
 
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I have a stack of 10 big blinds , 10,000 chips with blinds of 500/1000 and an ante 50. preflop pot of 2,000 ( at the table was originally 9 persons ) . And I decide to raise to 2.5 times the big blind , that is , 2,500 chips , with a good hand that deserves a raise , but not a premium hand, one of the players after I moved all-in , having a stack of more than we do that?:confused:

With 10 BB you are not in postion to raise or call some big hands,only way in my opinion is wait good cards for all in,in each other case you lose.
 
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