How much should I bet or raise?

macthemax · Apr 13, 2017

Sometimes I really don't know how to play my cards. Suppose I've got AK suited in middle or late position, how much should I bet? What if someone calls or raise?
Mostly I bet the pot but I think that is way to much.
And then of course there are cards like QQ JJ 1010 KQ KJ. All good hands but even harder to play pre flop.
I hope someone can help me out here.

Max

bushy_lufc · Apr 13, 2017

Raise to the same amount with every hand... stops you being incredibly easy to read, if you always raise 4x with TT-AA then 3x with 77-99 AJ-AK then min raise everything else then youll get no action with your big hands and lots of action you dont want with your weaker holdings.

I would say for a new player follow something like raising 3bb with 50+ BB's
2.5bb 25-49bbs
15-24bb's 2.2x
then probs all in or fold for the rest (min raise with maybe AA KK and some garbage from button)

sekcapilniqt · Apr 13, 2017

controversial half my bet

MoeJurphy · Apr 13, 2017

Depends on the spot, if your looking to get it in by the river you'll want to set up your bet sizing big enough so you can shove on the river with out it being a silly over bet.

Zer0-0uts · Apr 13, 2017

bushy_lufc said it already. Always keep your preflop raises the exact same size. If you change the size of your bet because you have AK then you are giving away WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION! Now every time you make a raise to that size I know what you have. I call the raise and see a flop with you. There is no king or ace on the flop. Guess what? Now I know you missed. The pot is mine. You see how that works? With that being said, you need to figure out what size bet works for you on each particular day at each particular table. You want to find a preflop bet size that will generally chase away most of the junk hands, but it won't chase everyone out. Now you only have one or two opponents post flop and they are not sure what you hold. Maybe the flop missed you maybe it didn't. There is a pretty good chance that unless you started with a pocket pair, you did not connect with the flop. Luckily you made it to the flop with only one or two other players. There is a pretty good chance the flop did not help your opponents either. So unless they called your preflop raise with a pocket pair they are probably not going to be able to make a stand against you here. Make a continuation bet. If all is well they will fold. If they call or reraise you then it is time to evaluate things again, but that is an entirety different thread in and of itself.

XsiX · Apr 13, 2017

bushy_lufc said:
Raise to the same amount with every hand... stops you being incredibly easy to read, if you always raise 4x with TT-AA then 3x with 77-99 AJ-AK then min raise everything else then youll get no action with your big hands and lots of action you dont want with your weaker holdings.

I would say for a new player follow something like raising 3bb with 50+ BB's
2.5bb 25-49bbs
15-24bb's 2.2x
then probs all in or fold for the rest (min raise with maybe AA KK and some garbage from button)

That's good advice

sttoil · Apr 13, 2017

good advice, yes you should always make your raise and bets depends on your stack and you plan how you will proceed next street.

illind · Apr 13, 2017

I vary my bets, but do have a consistent pre-flop bet routine. IE 4x BB. However, I don't stick to this all the time because I think you can lose value on certain hands. If your unpredictable it is harder to get a read on you. So I disagree with the "same bet at all time" strategy.

PKRNRS · Apr 13, 2017

It all depends on players and position as well as stack. In EP I'm going to min raise, 3x in middle and 4x in late position. I also add a bet for every caller. So on the button with 2 caller I would raise 6-7x BB. I also will try to get by with this hand cheaply if there as been a lot of limpers in front of me (4 or more). I follow this model no matter my holdings. Also I take into how the table is playing and stack sizes. If I have limpers and don't really want a call then I will overbet. Otherwise I want to see the flop

619Leafs · Apr 13, 2017

Normally, strong to premium hands such as AK or KQ in middle position you should raise about 4xbb.

The reason I say 4 times is because there is a growing amount of loose players and you don't want them coming in the pot for cheap.

If for any reason they still call, its up to luck because they will call every street.

VovanBaron · Apr 13, 2017

FutherMucker said:
bushy_lufc said it already. Always keep your preflop raises the exact same size. If you change the size of your bet because you have AK then you are giving away WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION! Now every time you make a raise to that size I know what you have. I call the raise and see a flop with you. There is no king or ace on the flop. Guess what? Now I know you missed. The pot is mine. You see how that works? With that being said, you need to figure out what size bet works for you on each particular day at each particular table. You want to find a preflop bet size that will generally chase away most of the junk hands, but it won't chase everyone out. Now you only have one or two opponents post flop and they are not sure what you hold. Maybe the flop missed you maybe it didn't. There is a pretty good chance that unless you started with a pocket pair, you did not connect with the flop. Luckily you made it to the flop with only one or two other players. There is a pretty good chance the flop did not help your opponents either. So unless they called your preflop raise with a pocket pair they are probably not going to be able to make a stand against you here. Make a continuation bet. If all is well they will fold. If they call or reraise you then it is time to evaluate things again, but that is an entirety different thread in and of itself.

Nice post and quality info.that is skilled play and you may have good prisez.gg

YannickPoker1 · Apr 13, 2017

Well I think it depends on your playing style as well as the opponent you're facing. Lets say you played an opponent in 500+ hands and he seems to be a loose passive calling station, then I think, it is important to be more aggressive with your raising. Play your value hands aggresively but don't bluff a calling station..

Pot size bets on the flop are generally too much from my opinion. If you have real value, I see no point in trying to push your opponent of a weaker hand..

TheNutz4You · Apr 13, 2017

I like to balance my raising range, mix it up. maybe 2.2x AA one time and then 3-3.5x the next time. suited connector 3x and then next time maybe 2.4x. gotta vary your raise sizing in different situations and keep balance.

hehasaces11 · Apr 13, 2017

Depending on what stake you play idk, I play 1-2.I would raise to maybe 12 or 16 and if I got reraised I would most like shove on them.

Tashawn1 · Apr 15, 2017

anythng cool

get comfortable betting small

Diegol · Apr 15, 2017

Are you talking about tournaments or cash games? In cash in the late positions you should bet 2.5 BB with AKs and call/4bet a reraise is up to you, in tournaments depends of your stack and also the stage of the tournament, before the ante 3BB is good, after i think 2.5 and less while you go further. Also in tournaments a shove is a good play if you have a short stack.

akmost · Apr 15, 2017

There is no reason to open more than 3x if you are the first raiser.I only raise 3x in the very early stages when the blinds are really small,something like, 10/20 or 15/30 and you are 70bbs deep+. You can adjust your open raise amount as follows: in early positions[UTG,UTG+1] maybe at max something like ~2.5x and the closer to the BTN the smaller the raise,even a plain 2x it will work most of the times. For god sake don't ever limp from early position,this is the most fishy move ever.[Maybe some of you have objections of what I am saying here and maybe you are right but it is not this topic's subject to analyze this move].

The standard cbet is around 35%-60% of the pot and not the entire pot!I use these general rules in my play.Of course under different circumstances I play differently but it really depends on my opponent,how tight or lose he is.Hope I gave you some assistance here! Good luck!

Jankou36 · Apr 15, 2017

AK is not such a great hand, if flop or later turn and river don't give you pair you are f**ked.
In late stage of the tournament with small stack it should be all-in, but in any other situation I would play it very tight: in early game when you have 30+ BB bet 3BB and if someone goes all-in I would rather fold (call when you know your opponent is bluffing), in middle game it depends on your stack, with big stack bet high, with average I often limp or 2BB.
Remember that 22 have biger win chance vs. AKs:
https://www.cardschat.com/poker-odds-calculator.php

1putnik · Apr 15, 2017

The size of your bet should depend on how much you are confident in the strength of your hand and how much opponent can pay you for it.

CallmeFloppy · Apr 15, 2017

If I am in mid to late position with no limpers, I generally make a consistent 3 or 4xBB open. Some games may require more or less depending on the table dynamics, but without a general feel I stay in that range. If there are limpers, I have to consider who they are, and what their style of play is, same with the opponents behind me now that the pot is richer.

jimmy andres · Apr 16, 2017

Hello, preferably with this hand that is strong I play betting 2 big blinds and if a rival goes all in same I follow, since in rare cases our opponent can surprise us with a hand of AA or KK, that is why they bet all His chips I follow, but if they only follow my bet of 2 big blinds and we see the flop, very aggressive game because if, neither you nor our rival is correct, it will be pressured by the aggressiveness in which we are submitting. So I played this hand I hope you serve, luck on the tables.

macthemax · Apr 18, 2017

Hello folks I really appreciate your comments, most of them are really very helpful.
I tried a few of them for the last couple of days and i start to see some difference in my advantage.
So thank you all very much.
I'm gonna try to write me a little book with the advice you all gave me, so I have something to fall back when everything or something starts to go wrong.
So once more thank you all and keep the good advice coming.

jarre1977 · Apr 18, 2017

You all have some good advice.Have to try them!!!

karkachi · Apr 20, 2017

When you have a good pre-flop or flop game and realize that your opponent is very passive does not like to take risks

alexandro · Apr 20, 2017

all in situation when have top cards... or half your stack

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