How light do you call short stack shoves?

Originally Posted by alien666dj

The push-fold game is always a coin. In your situation, risking for 10bb was not worth it. A better situation for a reasonable risk is certainly possible.

Originally Posted by theANMATOR

How light do you call short stack shoves say when you are 25-35bb on the button and the sb is right at 10ish bigs? Folds around to sb and he shoves.
Position of the tourney is commonly when late reg is closing or lets say nearing money bubble, not FT bubble.
What percentage should I be calling down with?
I know player tendency also plays a factor in this, but lets say vs an unknown how lose are you normally calling?

Hands like K/9 off, A/8, 9/T o, are particularly marginal hands - that have marginal/losing equity vs 20% ranges, however I play vs a lot of "hopeful" players who are looking to double with any playable hand. Ya'll know the type.

Thanks for all input.

Originally Posted by fundiver199

Questions like this is exactly, what a Nash equilibrium program like ICMizer is for. You can subscribe for 100$ per year, or you can use your daily free calculation to analyse an actual hand history and see, what range you were supposed to give action with. Please note though that the Nash equilibrium calculation suppose, that your opponents are playing perfect, and that they play purely push or fold. If this is not true, then it will change the range of hands, you can profitably push or call.

By the way something is off in your post. If you are BTN, and it folds around to SB, then per definition you have already folded and have no more decision to make. But maybe you mean, that you min-raised, and then SB jammed. This is a common situation, which ICMizer has the answer for. If its a 10BB jam, you generally have to call with more than half your range simply because of the price. You are paying 8BB to win a pot of 22BB, and their range should be wide. So often its one of those, where you are not exactly loving it, but you have to press "call" and gamble with them.

Originally Posted by fundiver199

You cant look at it like this. You need to estimate your equity against their range and compare it to pot odds with some allowance for ICM. Which by the way is, what ICMizer does. If you only give action with the nuts, you will lose 2-2,5BB every time, you open, and a short stack rejam. Which will also eventually send you out of the tournament. If the poker site allow HUDs, and you play regularly, you will also show up on other peoples HUDs as someone with a very high fold to 3-bet. And then you will be targeted for further exploitation, until you adjust and start to defend correctly.

Originally Posted by fundiver199

Just to give an example of an ICMizer simulation.

27 places pay, 81 people left
Average stack 25BB
Hero stack 25BB

Hero min-raise on BTN, SB rejam for 10BB

Hero opening range 44% of hands, SB jamming range 29% of hands, Hero calling range 33% of hands. Hero calling range include any pair, any ace, K9+, JT+, K3s+, T8s+, 97s+, 76s+. K9o and JTo are marginal calls and can be folded to reduce variance, but A8o is to high in our distribution, unless we have a solid read, SB is a nit and not jamming nearly as wide, as he should.