How I lose 50k pot just made the FOLD

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Hey dudes, I want to share opinion about vision on yours sense of making call.
A lot of times you began thinking about make this call, or not. I prefer think this way: first what did you think is true - if you began doubt of it, you will lose. Just what happens with me =(

So, it were prizes already, person started make a lot of preflop all-in (3 or 4 times before this situation) and several times he had call from LITTLE guys and I saw he had 22 and 88 pocket hands 2 times.

And I get pocket TT but this guy made before me 38k all-in ... and after MANY thoughts I decided make FOLD =( in the picture you will see what board we get as a result...

My advice, make sure that above all first what you do will adhere your intuition and HUD stats!!!

In addition I won 25 euro, but if I won this bank and double up to the 100k stack....hmm...maybe I have won much bigger prizes!!!
 

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How many Big Blinds did he shove? Because if he shoved 10BB, it was a terrible fold. 20BB is really close but probably calling if your impression was he was shoving too wide. If its more I'm folding too.
 
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If the all in was before the river, I would of folded too.
 
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Can I ask what site is this? On what poker site are you playing? Everything looks just too odd to me for pokerstars. Although, your fold wasn't really too bad, you had 5 players behind maybe that can comfort you.
 
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looking at this. i do not see how it is a fold.. you play to win, but of course u r still there and that is all that matters what place did you come in at??
 
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Depending on blinds, I probably re-jam to isolate.
 
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nobody cares what u fold! ;) ////////
 

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if I have the info that the player who went all in have a larger range of hands, I would call for sure, like we say in brazil "PAU TORA"
 
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My opinion:

The only point of this hand that matters is the pre-flop decision. What happened after that is irrelevant to the analysis of this hand.

I'm making an assumption based on your comment of a push of 38k that blinds were 350/700? Hard to tell but that has a bearing on this.

Based on this, you had about 68BB and the villain had about 54BB. You're calling 54BB on TT in middle position when their range appears to be wide. You're in the money, with an average stack at your table. The bigger stacks -1 are behind you, which puts your last 10k less at risk, but ultimately you have to put the villain on a hand.

It's a massive overbet but consistent with how they were betting up to that point post-bubble so placing a value on their hand is tough. It would figure, but tough to say that they had JJ, QQ, KK, or AA. Two overcards you're flipping a coin, and anything else you're dominating. The likelihood that you're 50/50 or better is high enough to call this. I can't see how you don't.

Given that one player is behind you with a higher stack, I'd push it all in. So I'm curious what your thought process was that made you fold this.
 
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It's difficult to know what is right or wrong without knowing certain details...
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- all stack sizes (and how they relate to the blinds)
- prizepool & what the exact payouts are for each position

Perhaps to further your education on this, look up topics like 'I.C.M.', "Calling All-ins', 'spots to 3bai'.

Poker decisions are made based on ALL of the info. we have available.
 
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Next time upload this hand to get good answers! -I can't give you answer if I don't know how is played...
 
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Just don't know what hand or what decision would bring you wining chips.
Even Aces, Kings and Queens couldn't provide win (yesterday lose preflop all-in at the 100$ freeroll in PokerStars with my Aces against Kings) ...
Just waiting next time)))))
 
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I think if shoolajo raise in preflop and than raise in flop than you do correctly, becouse it could mean he have a strong hand.
 
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