Originally Posted by 07keith
ok pokerbuds i got ajs deep in a tourney and i flop the nut flush but to my suprise after the raise there are 4 callers the flop hits and i'm first to act WHAT DO I DO??? shove or check raise
Originally Posted by RedCatPoker
1. If you have a really strong hand and you believe nobody will beat you, than try to make them believe you have a weak hand. Act like you are afraid of possible flush. And more likely they will get trapped.
2. If you have a weak hand, try to make your opponents believe in the opposite. Unless they have nuts, they will fold.
In your specific case, I will check the flop if I am the first one to act.
Shove or check raise? OMG, Why not bet?
Do you really think a guy who flopped two pair or a set on a 3-flush board will bet out and risk getting blown off making a possible full by a check-raise he has to fold to? Not likely! So you might just check one guy into a full house!!
Yet, by betting out (a reasonable amount and one which you would normally make, such as a 1/3 pot Cbet) what are you going to get called by? Two pair, a set, or a smaller flush.
It's such an obvious board. Tough to get value from weaker hands here anyway - easy to check someone into the nuts tho, isn't it? Therefore checking is the worst one of all!
So, these hands might call a reasonable
flop bet. Ideally you isolate one guy with a set or smaller flush and extract the maximum you can by the end. If the board has paired by the turn or river, you need to exercise pot control. If he has a set/flush he may call a reasonable turn bet. Pray for an aggressive loon with a smaller flush.
Now, when you bet and get called and the turn does not pair the board, it's no longer "reasonable" bet time - you do not want to give him good odds
to make a full so you bet really big - like more than the pot maybe. If he calls and the board does not pair on the river, I'd sell my hand for whatever I think the guy would call. If it does pair however, your in a tough spot. Hopefully you got em covered and he has so few chips left his shove gives you the pot odds