AMTF1988
Rock Star
Silver Level
I usually shove at that point, that's my style of play. Only 13 hands are ahead at this point, all pockets, and you hold 2 overs to 11 of them.
In a heads up situation, you have about 45% chance of beating any Qs or lower, pockets, 30% chance of beating Ks, but 5% of beating Aces.
Chance of an opponent having Aces is so low when you already hold one of them, and less chance of them hitting a set too
In a heads up situation, you have about 45% chance of beating any Qs or lower, pockets, 30% chance of beating Ks, but 5% of beating Aces.
Chance of an opponent having Aces is so low when you already hold one of them, and less chance of them hitting a set too
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AviCKter
Visionary
Silver Level
60BB: Depends on a lot of different factors: the type of player we're facing, the phase of tournament we're in, the amount of 3-bet, position you're sitting in, position of the opponent and a lot of many other field dynamics factors.
25BB: Shove. You don't have any other profitable play. That said, if the opponent is a ROCK(NIT), you're praying to god that you're at best flipping.
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EPTX12
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Depending on the table of course but If you have plenty of chips I would recommend smooth calling. I enjoy post flop play myself. See the next move after the flop.
Short stacked I'll go ahead and shove.
Good luck out there 🤠
Short stacked I'll go ahead and shove.
Good luck out there 🤠
Ahoy
Legend
Silver Level
Hello, interesting question. Depends on many different factors, but mostly the stage of tournament, profile of the villain and villains stack size.
If we are getting close to the bubble and villain is short stack, I would 4-bet shove. There is still the chance he might have been just squeezing or trying to steal the pot pre-flop. Many players tend to fold to 4-bet at micro stakes.
If he is not just squeezing, we still get the positive EV because there are only the pocket pairs which got you beat at this point, but you are in a coinflip against most of them (expect AA and KK, to which you hold the blockers).
Also, the play depends on he size of his 3-bet.
1) When OOP with 60 BB
If we are last to act pre flop, I would definitely 4-bet. If we are last to act and the villain is short, I would 4-bet shove. If we are getting close to the bubble and he has big stack, I would slightly 4-bet.
2) When OOP with 25BB
A bit harder decision. Again, depends if we are close to the bubble, and on villains style of play, but I would most likely 4-bet shove.
3) When IP with 60BB
Again, simple 4-bet, maybe a bit higher than usual, to isolate. IF you completely miss the flop and face aggression, you can still fold. You are not short so those few BB do not matter to you so much I guess. But from my experience, when I am IP and 4-bet pre-flop and get called, most of the time the caller just checks the board on the flop, especially if he missed.
4) When IP with 25 BB
Again, 4-bet. If the stacks behind you are significantly higher I would maybe shove. All depends on your profile at the table. If you have been playing really aggressively (thats what you should do
) then you can definitely 4-bet shove this. Yes, there are going to be times where you will get called by pocket pairs and eventually loose the flip, but what ever, that is the spot where you probably must do this. It happens. And it happens especially online. But thats okay
PS: Yeah, maybe the all time 4-bet is too aggressive for somebody, but thats just my style of play. Most of the time the aggressive play earns you nice chunk of chips. And I think this is definitely the spot where you should aggro!
If we are getting close to the bubble and villain is short stack, I would 4-bet shove. There is still the chance he might have been just squeezing or trying to steal the pot pre-flop. Many players tend to fold to 4-bet at micro stakes.
If he is not just squeezing, we still get the positive EV because there are only the pocket pairs which got you beat at this point, but you are in a coinflip against most of them (expect AA and KK, to which you hold the blockers).
Also, the play depends on he size of his 3-bet.
1) When OOP with 60 BB
If we are last to act pre flop, I would definitely 4-bet. If we are last to act and the villain is short, I would 4-bet shove. If we are getting close to the bubble and he has big stack, I would slightly 4-bet.
2) When OOP with 25BB
A bit harder decision. Again, depends if we are close to the bubble, and on villains style of play, but I would most likely 4-bet shove.
3) When IP with 60BB
Again, simple 4-bet, maybe a bit higher than usual, to isolate. IF you completely miss the flop and face aggression, you can still fold. You are not short so those few BB do not matter to you so much I guess. But from my experience, when I am IP and 4-bet pre-flop and get called, most of the time the caller just checks the board on the flop, especially if he missed.
4) When IP with 25 BB
Again, 4-bet. If the stacks behind you are significantly higher I would maybe shove. All depends on your profile at the table. If you have been playing really aggressively (thats what you should do
) then you can definitely 4-bet shove this. Yes, there are going to be times where you will get called by pocket pairs and eventually loose the flip, but what ever, that is the spot where you probably must do this. It happens. And it happens especially online. But thats okay PS: Yeah, maybe the all time 4-bet is too aggressive for somebody, but thats just my style of play. Most of the time the aggressive play earns you nice chunk of chips. And I think this is definitely the spot where you should aggro!
debriz
Rock Star
Silver Level
Shove all in most of the time especially the bettor is in position.
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MstrBlast3r
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hello, interesting question. Depends on many different factors, but mostly the stage of tournament, profile of the villain and villains stack size.
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PS: Yeah, maybe the all time 4-bet is too aggressive for somebody, but thats just my style of play. Most of the time the aggressive play earns you nice chunk of chips. And I think this is definitely the spot where you should aggro!
I like Ahoy's aggressive line of play to this situation.