How to deal with a player that only shoves?

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Today at a home game it was me and my bud heads up, i had about 70% of the chips in play, and the blinds were 5/10. Well anyways, he would shove pretty much every hand, so i was bleeding blinds bad. When i finally got a decent hand Qc10c i called his all in. To my surprise he turns over A7 off suit, and rivers an Ace to beat my flopped queen. So how do i deal with players like this without relying on luck, and without losing a ton of blinds?
 
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Today at a home game it was me and my bud heads up, i had about 70% of the chips in play, and the blinds were 5/10. Well anyways, he would shove pretty much every hand, so i was bleeding blinds bad. When i finally got a decent hand Qc10c i called his all in. To my surprise he turns over A7 off suit, and rivers an Ace to beat my flopped queen. So how do i deal with players like this without relying on luck, and without losing a ton of blinds?
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If somebody is shoving every hand all you can call and hope. Unless he has a pocket pair you are about 50/50 to win..
 
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If somebody is shoving every hand all you can call and hope. Unless he has a pocket pair you are about 50/50 to win..
If I'm the lead I just wait until I have a pair 8 or higher, which is something I know crushes his range, and then call.
 
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You might try folding to him two or three times, and then when you're in the lead make a big bet, he will probably just call you to see a flop.
 
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In this situation I usually open my range also and become the aggressive one. A player like that often is trying to steal the blinds, which sounds like you let him do. Forcing him to make the decision to call will lead you to getting blinds back, knocking him out, or doubling him up at which point he will likely return to normal play.
 
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Fight fire with fire, your were scared money, HU range is wide open.
 
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i dont see anything wrong with your hand, what was the end result of your tourney anyhow
 
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Any ace, even a decent king has a shot. Get it in. I will call people like this pretty light most times HU. Scared money doesn't win.

Like someone else said, when you are first to act preflop, put a raise in with a decent hand like suited connectors or any PP, any ace, just about any king. Also sometimes if you fold 5-6 hands that tones them down too.

HU is like a game of chicken sometimes. Whoever swerves first....
 
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It really depends on how deep you are here. I mean if you're 50-100bb's deep & idiot is shoving in every hand with blinds at 5/10.. then 'who cares'. Let him.
Suggestions to call here pretty light just seems bad to me.. especially without knowing the particulars.
 
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It really depends on how deep you are here. I mean if you're 50-100bb's deep & idiot is shoving in every hand with blinds at 5/10.. then 'who cares'. Let him.
Suggestions to call here pretty light just seems bad to me.. especially without knowing the particulars.
Well strictly speaking if he's shoving ATC then pretty much ATC 8 or higher are +EV vs his range (plus Axs, Kxs, most suited Queens, etc.)

I would wait for a high PP just because that basically crushes him (most cases he'll have at least 1 undercard if not two or a lower pair), and we're pretty much guaranteed to kill his momentum.
 
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It really depends on how deep you are here. I mean if you're 50-100bb's deep & idiot is shoving in every hand with blinds at 5/10.. then 'who cares'. Let him.
Suggestions to call here pretty light just seems bad to me.. especially without knowing the particulars.


Well yes if OP has 100 BBs + then sure let him jam for a bit.

However, OP did say his buddy was shoving every hand. That means ATC to me. I will call someone like this with any ace, any PP, a good king, or even Q high.

Just my opinion. I'm not going to let someone run me over doing this again and again personally. If I lose, I lose.

That's just me. Listen to me, don't listen to me, makes no difference.
 
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Well yes if OP has 100 BBs + then sure let him jam for a bit.

However, OP did say his buddy was shoving every hand. That means ATC to me. I will call someone like this with any ace, any PP, a good king, or even Q high.

Just my opinion. I'm not going to let someone run me over doing this again and again personally. If I lose, I lose.

That's just me. Listen to me, don't listen to me, makes no difference.
So you've got 60% with range you've put here.
meh... I'd wait for better.

Personally I don't think it's possible to suggest a range to call here with, without knowing what the stack sizes are in relation to the blinds (it obviously makes a HUGE difference). AND, if they're HeadsUp then isn't HERO open-shoving here too (if stack sizes warrant it).. or if villain is 'really' shoving every hand.. limp in with intentions of calling it off, etc.
Depends on stack sizes!
 
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So you've got 60% with range you've put here.
meh... I'd wait for better.

Personally I don't think it's possible to suggest a range to call here with, without knowing what the stack sizes are in relation to the blinds (it obviously makes a HUGE difference). AND, if they're HeadsUp then isn't HERO open-shoving here too (if stack sizes warrant it).. or if villain is 'really' shoving every hand.. limp in with intentions of calling it off, etc.
Depends on stack sizes!

Agree. As long as we're deep enough to wait and he's dumb enough to keep shoving.

Ditto, agree with this.

Probably why I am not that good of a HU player. Perhaps I should take note of this info.:)

I practice occasionally on Bovada, and I have ran into these villains who jam every hand. Strangely though, I have recently been winning my flips and 60/40s in HU SNGs. Lucky for me I'm sure.

What kind of ranges should we be waiting for here? Let's just say for example hero has 70% of chips, and around 25-30 BBs. Enlighten me.
 
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Probably why I am not that good of a HU player. Perhaps I should take note of this info.:)
HU play is less nitty than FR/6max, not more. You're blinded every time so you have to play most hands.
 
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Also take note that villain may have perceived you as being super tight to be doing this. Sounds like a bulldozer to me. Nobody in their right mind would shove every hand unless you're up against a super nit.
 
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What were you doing when you were first to act preflop?
 
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