How to beat donks heads up?

Sounds simple enough right?

I find myself an ok player for micros generally better than most regs the reason why I'm still at micros after all this time is 2 reasons, tilt and BR management, anywho..
Now in HU its ok if blinds are big.. donks eventually shove on trash but when blinds are small and I'm super agressive HU raising almost any hand in position like you would be expected to and double barreling many flops.. eventually though the average donk picks up on this and then I can't do any moves what so ever it eventually turns out to be I raise, he shoves, I raise he shoves.. I'm like ok I'll tighten up or fold a few.. I raise he shoves... you can;t wait for AK and the like headsup but it does my head in when my game plan is severely changed like that, and I can't raise oop on hands like 710s oop against a donk..
I also find myself eventually tilting against them if I can't get em out early, I.E they go down to like 6-BBS but win a 40-60 flip or worse then win another flip and we're back to even..
Here is an example of me tilting in a tourney where I was 20 k everyone was 6k so I'm naturally shoving a wide range all in as blinds were 400/800, HU, I'm thinking this should be easy, he has 6k I have 30-35, I shove A10 he called QJ he snags it at this stage its now 600/1200 he was sitting on about 15000 after the hand, we were see-sawing abit after then I do this

pokerstars - $1.29+$0.21|600/1200 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: 22,666.00
Hero (BB): 17,834.00
SB posts ante 75.00, Hero posts ante 75.00, SB posts SB 600.00, Hero posts BB 1,200.00
Pre Flop: (1950.00) Hero has Qc 3c
SB raises to 2,400.00, Hero calls 1,200.00
Flop: (4950.00, 2 players) As Th Js
Hero checks, SB bets 1,200.00, Hero raises to 4,800.00, SB calls 3,600.00
Turn: (14550.00, 2 players) Qd
Hero bets 10,559.00 and is all-in, SB calls 10,559.00
River: (35668.00, 2 players) 3h
Hero shows Qc 3c (Two Pair, Queens and Threes) (Pre 28%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB shows Qs Ah (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 72%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
SB wins 35,668.00

Stupid but I half expected him to fold as there is a blatant straight there but what do donks know right?
Frustrating

Not sure I understand what your really asking. There is a wide range of donks so just adjust your play accordingly.

Also for the record calling pre with Q3s is probably gonna be bad.

Complaining about "donks" then playing Q3s is kind of ironic. Looking at the way that hand played out there is so much to consider. It seems you are pissed off because someone called your bluff and you lost.

Think about what you were representing - no preflop raise then a check raise on the flop.
Then push all in on the turn. First it would seem you were slow playing AK or KK, then by going all in on the turn you have changed your strategy.

You seem to have not considered his hand at all, the pre-flop raise then calling your check raise would suggest he has some kind of hand. At this point all you have is a draw.
On the turn then you push.
As you say there is an obvious straight, your opponent has represented strength, yet you go all in with a pair-suicidal. He probably called for two reasons a) he has 2pair and might hit a full house and b) he will still have almost 5,000 chips. In low buyin games he obviously thought the risk was worth taking.
Perhaps you had bluffed and bullied a lot before that hand and he just called you out.
Should have just folded the flop and waited for another hand.

cliffs:
Over-aggro, non-adjusting donk plays callingstation donk (without adjusting), & complains about getting called.
'gg'

The most likely reason you're still playing micros is simple; you don't have enough game to move up. Telling yourself you're good enough to win except for poor BRM and tilt control only caters to your ego. These are both part of the overall state of your game. Rating yourself as okay when these things aren't affecting you means you are over-estimating yourself.

Arjonius said:

The most likely reason you're still playing micros is simple; you don't have enough game to move up. Telling yourself you're good enough to win except for poor BRM and tilt control only caters to your ego. These are both part of the overall state of your game. Rating yourself as okay when these things aren't affecting you means you are over-estimating yourself.

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but on a lighter note .....you still have your hair!

So, who's the donk?

yes there was a blatant str8 chance on the board and he had better odds and cards
had u the whole way ????!!

hilarious example of irony

You need to learn how to play ABC poker and try not bluffing in micro games.
Calling with Q3s when it was raised was a wrong call, if you can't beat the micros you won't beat the higher buy-ins.

Holy shit talk about being ripped to shreds huh, I threw one example up as a pure example of me giving up and throwing a ridculous bluff, I know myself it was stupid. Was I expecting him to fold after the turn, no only on blind hope that he was scared if I had a king..

And I do find myself an ok player for micros... Whether you'd like to think so or not, couldn't care less.

I will be calling you down with 2 pair if i know you to be bluffing a lot of the time.
Some are going to suckout on you and you have to live with it

I'm going to leave out about what was wrong with that hand because enough has been said but as far as donking HU i think i can add something.

1st it would depend on the tourney. a large MTT and i'm grateful to have made it to HU and will be happy with either prize. STT is bit different and i want that 1st place.

When HU in a MTT i will shove almost anything at you for the reality is any hand i have has a 50% chance of winning because one of us has to. i generally have a range still but could see my opponent thinking i have none because of how wide it is here.

personally, with his hand, after you called my raise pre and then do a check raise on the flop i would have shoved there to price out the flush draw.

hope that gave some idea of what a donk like myself is thinking HU

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Wtf? In a large tourney you wouldn't care about a difference of, say $1,000 but you would care about $10 in an STT?!

You're right i should have stated that i haven't been in those tourneys that payout that large such as the $11 buy ins and $33 buy ins.

Most of the larger MTTs that i was referring to was smaller buy ins and not such a large field as those games so there is usually only $10 or $15 difference between 2nd and 1st.

When i graduate to the bigger games with the 15minute blinds or more and over a thousand or maybe over ten thousand and find myself fortunate enough to be final table or even HU maybe my views on that would change.

My reference was for 25 cent games with two or three hundred players if that many.

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@Eclipsez people dont care about losing $ at micro tables, they'll call anything especially if you bluff alot than they're forced to play shtty hands ,they cant just let you keep bluffing lol, "are you old enough to play poker??" lol you like to ask people that alot seems you should be asking yourself that!!

$ChipTowerz$

Wow. you are like 15 you arn't ya, LOL

And this thead answered what I asked back then perfectly I simply didn't adjust nw I have and have no problem.