Are high buy in tournaments really over feared?

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I don't really see too much to actually worry about, yes the players think alot more your likely to be targeted if your weak but even if you are inferior in skill
being aware your being targeted you can quite simply just adjust your game
to better suit you on a tough table.

Your still going to get spots, opponents playing a solid game and opponents playing to wide a range who are going to be missing the flop alott of the time.

If you know the fundamental range and the right positional range, and your adjusting to each player individually, thinking about what hands beat you post flop or what type of range they are on and making your decisions on a probable
circumstance where your normally right more than your wrong, then that's resulting in +EV

But in addition if your just thinking about your odds what you need in order for a call to be profitable v's a range of whatever % the opponent is likely raising with and your noting individual players...
I'ts really not that hard to run deep and accumulate a big stack at any level.
After all it only takes a couple of big flips late on to do most of the work for you, you could quite easily pick off players from their and use a fearful stack and balanced aggression without coming into too much trouble until very late on in the tournament.

I also feel their are alot of live players who play at the highest level who have been fortunate to have the bankroll I really don't feel the average high stakes player has much more skill than a very good reg at a respectable level
maybe its a case of having more discipline and more emotional control... and just ''luck'' being able to get a big break if they are tournament players.

Granted if they have run up a huge roll on like pokerstars from $10.00 playing cash games then they deserve recognition for making millions
but those players a few and far beetween, and obviously sponsorship goes a long way.

My view only, but yeah that's how I feel :rolleyes:
 
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Nah any buyin from 10 dollars and up are basically the same players in them so there is not much to worry about
 
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My only fear is that I accidentally click the "register" button to an ongoing $530 tournament. When I'm trying to rail someone's table.

(Yes my account has over $530...) :(
 
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If you can't reload or don't want to you need to maintain good BR management by playing tourneys with buy-ins that are 1/100th of your BR or less.

AS for when you know your in over your head against more experienced players it's time for you to play tight, big bet, pre-flop poker. More experienced players what to outplay you on the later streets but playing that style lessons their edge over you.
 
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I think you're right, but for me it's not really about my opponents... It's my own way of thinking. I tend to psych myself out when I make an attempt to do something above my normal range. I start to get unsure of myself. I think I feel the need to be completely crushing majority of the things I get into before I can sit comfortably at a table that's higher stakes with a calm demeanor so that I can make good decisions.
 
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My biggest tournament was 330euro buy in and it was not much different from 10-20$ buy in's or i didnt notice that, becouse I finished in money :)
 
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If you feel comfortable in a $10 tourney, you really won't notice the difference in a $25 tourney. Or a $100 tourney. The play will not be that much different.

It boils down to scared money.
 
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Yeah I feel like the $1 $2.20 MTTs are the opposite of scared money. It's maniac money. LOL
 
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Maniac Money. Lol
I think that well sums up the micro mtt buy in's for 1 or 2 dollars.

And yes I agree if your within a bankroll you just can't afford the shots, Yesterday for example I lost 7 consecutive flips to coolers for my tournament life with KA or 10-10 and above in different tournaments late on, upto then I felt great playing well, but if you play to take those flips in pursuit of winning It's
going to happen.

Regarding bankroll, I work off a life bankroll now if I want to play a big tournament I'll re-invest the money from wages if I lose the buy in
 
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It boils down to scared money.

Yeah I feel like the $1, $2.20 MTTs are the opposite of scared money. It's maniac money. LOL


And here folks we have defined the differences. The essence of gambling, and maybe the true answer to the Ultimate Question lies in those 2 statements.

Note; edited Sil3ntnesses line with a comma, cause commas are more important that semi commas.
 
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i hope to one day build my BR to where i can play some bigger touneys bc i find my self playing a lot more loose and less conservative when the buy ins are low and the skill level is exhausting bc guys suckout sooooOOO much more....it seems
 
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And here folks we have defined the differences. The essence of gambling, and maybe the true answer to the Ultimate Question lies in those 2 statements.

Note; edited Sil3ntnesses line with a comma, cause commas are more important that semi commas.

:confused: whats a semi comma? :p
 
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I have found there isnt a huge difference. Infact as far as SnGs go I find some smaller ones seem to not only last longer but can be harder. Like people are hanging on to theyre last dollars or something.
 
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I play tournaments with a small stake. A few dollars. Thanks Cardschatu (I used the occasion) I played the tournament of $ 635. I think that in such a big tournament game a little more cautious. No allin on small blinds. And if in principle there is no difference in the game. My opinion.
 
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The only fear I have is that I don't have enough BR for these games so probably only by playing satties that I would be able to take part of these juicy tourneys! :D
 
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It really mainly depends on where you are playing. I've seen better players in 11$ regular freezeout on Stars.eu than in 200$ Sunday Major in Ongame (with lots of satellite players).

But especially if you play in higher stakes, two things matter even more:

1) Bankroll management
2) Game selection
 
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Back when US players could play on Pokerstars, I played in the Sunday Million ($209 buy-in) three times. I was pretty surprised that the caliber of play wasn't all that different in the much smaller stakes ($10 or less) tourneys I usually played. People still chased flushes and straights, refused to lay down pocket pairs and generally thought an ace was a gift straight from God. I made a fairly deep run one time, and the play got a lot tighter for the final hour or so. I finished around 60th, and I would say for the final hour, it got really tight.
 
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