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Hey there...

Ive been playing alot of these lately on pokerstars on the micro category - 2 and 5 $. I'm not that bad at them at the beggining, in fact I start ahead (chip leader) most of the times, if not all the time. My problem is: when they get bored and start doing all-in's. I dont know if God doesn't like me or so, but I always lose against them in All-in, if they have a crappy hand or not. I dont actually remember winning an All-in hand in HU.

Can anyone help me in this subject. Coz after 10 or 20 times you really start getting pissed off and losing alot of money (a few bucks yeah, but i'm no rich).
 
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When you get all-in, who's got the better hand, you or your opponent?

If you do, then be happy that you got it in w the best hand. That's poker, you try to get your money in when you're a favorite, the rest is up to the luck of the remaining cards. If you're getting sucked out on repeatedly, that happens.
 
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well i go with best hand most of times, thats what really annoys me. Crapheads who's bluff I can tell by a mile, and go all in with nothing pre-flop and win my 2 or 5 dollars...

What I'm asking is for a strategy for these micro HU. Coz there are people who dont give a f*** about 2 or 5 bucks so they play very agressive, and thanks to CC I've now developed a way to deal with these agressive players, now I need a way to deal with these All In's Luck... not going all-in and wait, thats what I do, but they increase their chips... I once even lost to a guy who had like 50 chips (initial chips are 1500) and won like 3 all ins in a row... with nothin!
 
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Sounds like if you're getting all in with the best of it you've just had a bad run... it happens but eventually variance will stop playing games with you and they wont suck out on you. If you're really getting in with the best of it most of the time, keep doing what you're doing.
 
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Hey there...

Ive been playing alot of these lately on Pokerstars on the micro category - 2 and 5 $. I'm not that bad at them at the beggining, in fact I start ahead (chip leader) most of the times, if not all the time. My problem is: when they get bored and start doing all-in's. I dont know if God doesn't like me or so, but I always lose against them in All-in, if they have a crappy hand or not. I dont actually remember winning an All-in hand in HU.

Can anyone help me in this subject. Coz after 10 or 20 times you really start getting pissed off and losing alot of money (a few bucks yeah, but i'm no rich).

Try watching how the players at the highest buyin levels are playing them.... the ones who are winning players.
Typically... early levels and winning a few pots can be pretty insignificant... often early levels being a time to be 'training villain'. Once the blinds escalate what you're assuming is a donkey shove might actually be the 'correct' play. If you watch the high buyin players ($200>$1,000 HU sng players), you might be very surprised to see how light they're shoving once blinds reach 40/80, 50/100 range... ie. J7s, etc., as it takes a much better hand to call with than to shove with.

tip - be looking to shove from the button pretty wide and be fairly tight with calling in BB (unless you're getting the odds to do so).

You might just be running bad..... but you might have some leaks in your game too from the sounds of it.

note: by suggesting to watch a bunch of high buyin HU Sng's...I'm not suggesting to play your typical micro villain in the same manner necessarily... only saying to check them out in order to 'perhaps' better understand what 'might' be a good/better/best way to play them (although obviously one needs to make adjustments with whoever you're playing against).
I've done this for all forms of poker I play.... and for all forms I hope to pursue or am in the throes of pursuing, etc... ie. when I first got into playing SNG STT (aside from studying the game, reading books/posts/articles, watching training vids. etc.), I would also watch some of the higher buyin players playing the games. It was a real eye-opener for me (and now have continued to do so albeit quite a bit differently from before... ie. ghosting some of the top MTT players online).

If it's 'really' just a situation of donks playin' bad & getting 'lucky'... what can you do about it anyways? (aside from adjusting and working at getting your chips in good). You can't make them play a different way... you can only adjust to the way they're playing and exploit their weaknesses/tendancies to the max.
 
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If your getting in with the best hand in the long run you should be coming out ahead. If getting sucked out with a 1 and 2 outters that should be very infrequent say comapered to someone chasing a flush draw or open end straight. If you have more success grinding them out, fold some of the hands that are not monsters.
 
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Poker Orifice has hit the nail on the head.
I try and watch one a day from the $100 and up range.

The $1000 games will shock you sometimes. big aha.

BTW, if you didnt know already (im sure you do), Colin Moshman wrote a book about it. Im dying to get it because ive read great reviews of it. So it might help.

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I would worry less about starting with the chip lead and more about ending with it. POker orifice had some good points, but I would like to add that in my modest experience in the world of heads up, it is usually one or two hands that define the game. It is important to choose when you are gonna commit your chips to those one or two hands.
 
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Yeah, thats what I've come to realize. Heads up is about one or two moves. Only thing is it's either a good player that get's me in his trap or it is a guy going all in when he has less than 1/3 of the chips.. Well I wait but the blinds go to him, and after a while all that I took from him gets to him again with me folding his all-in's.

Getting my ass kicked there.

I bought a few books don't know if they're any good, I should've come here first and read some reviews, but I was very excited to learn so I bought:
- Winning at Low Limit Hold'em (This one was by mistake, didn't read the Low Limit part :p, but I decided to buy it and read some strategies different from NL, to see if I get some and learn more about it, wisdom is never too much right?)
- [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hold'Em for Advanced Players

- The Book of Bluffs

Can anyone tell me if these are any good for now?
I'm not a begginer, didn't start playing poker last week, only losing money :p
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being unlucky is last thing you would want to be worried about because it's something you have no control of. if your playing with a sufficient bankroll of atleast 100 dollars the bad beats won't kill your bankroll.
 
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