This is getting beyond a joke!

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I have just moved up from the $5 sitngo's to the $10 at FT and since moving up two days ago I have lost 99% of the preflop races/coin flips I have been involved in it is getting ridiculous now! can I expect this to go on much longer as it has been like this for two straight days and I've played like 70 sitngo's? Also I have only got 31 buyins left now so should I just move back down to the $5.
 
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LOOOOL just played two $10 sng's got down to the bubble on both and im all in on one AK vs 88 and I lose ANOTHER race.
The other SnG im all in on the bubble aswell with my AQ vs AJ and suprise surprise a jack comes on the flop.
 
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sorry about your luck i know how you feel. hopefully it will turn around for you.
 
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It will most certainly turn around. I think you know you should move back down. No sense going tilty AND broke...
 
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yes, it can last way way more than you can expect. i myself ran below ev 120k hands (cash games), and that is nothing compared to this guy i know who now has 400k hands below ev.
 
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Have you not cashed in any of the 70 tournaments you have played? Hell, that is a bad down swing and didn't think it was possible to run that bad at STT's. Are you sure they level isn't just to hard for you and big leap? I definetly would move down with only 31 buy-ins left just in case and see how you get on.

Good luck to ya!
 
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I agree with the moving down or taking a break for a few days.
 
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Yeah I have cashed in say around about 15-20 times but hardly any wins to be honest only like 3 or 4. Yeah I didnt think it was possible to run that badly as I was completely crushing the $5 sitngos and I just cant see how the $10 are that much harder?! I am really baffled and I dont just want to stop for a few days and hope it gets better to be honest, I want to work my way through it but I dont know if that will make things worse!! Guess I will have to drop back to the $5 but they hardly motivate me anymore tbh lool
 
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drop down, build back up, and then take another shot
 
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Okay I will do that right away, thanks alot for the help guys.
 
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yes if your crushing the 5$ level then why not stay with it....you say they hardly motivate you anymore. well let your motivation be that you kill em imo
 
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I have just moved up from the $5 sitngo's to the $10 at FT and since moving up two days ago I have lost 99% of the preflop races/coin flips I have been involved in it is getting ridiculous now! can I expect this to go on much longer as it has been like this for two straight days and I've played like 70 sitngo's? Also I have only got 31 buyins left now so should I just move back down to the $5.


I just played in some microstakes cash games at FT and lost 4 times in a row when I was at least 90% to win with just the river card to come. Two outer, three outer, two outer, four outer. Doesn't make sense. Then I was all in with AQ against AK pre-flop and flopped a Q. Point is, it does get ridiculous! :eek: Hang in there-it shouldn't last much longer. ;)
 
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yes if your crushing the 5$ level then why not stay with it....you say they hardly motivate you anymore. well let your motivation be that you kill em imo

Yeah, that's a good point. I'd stay with the $5.00 if you're turning over a nice profit. It's not as if the payouts and rake are bad and you can earn decent money at $5.00 ones. Last thing you want to do and I know it's easy to do so once you have lost a fair bit of money, you want to get it back quick again but don't bust yourself buddy, especially when you look at the fact you're beating the lower limits.

Play them for say at least 2500 games and you might of learn even more especially if you're reading up on SnG play etc. Along with this, you will be building the bigger bankroll and then you can take another shot without losing xamount of buy-ins. Or maybe mix them up?

If you really want to play the $10.00 add 80% $5.00 and remaining $10.00 that way your roll shouldn't take a battering, you will still be profiting in your $5.00 and gaining experience in the $10.00 until your able to turn a profit there too!

Goodluck.
 
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Combination of standard beats and selective recall IMO.

This is just how poker in general, and STTs in particular, are. If you can't get used to it you're playing the wrong game.
 
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I know how u feel

sometimes u just have a bad run of luck

hopefully, it will turn around for u soon

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Just remember, it always can get worse. Yesterday, I was getting 3 outer-ed on left and right. And just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I got 2 outer-ed.

Today was almost the complete opposite. I hit quads 3 times. One of my favorite hands today, I was playing in the Ferguson and a satellite. The Ferguson went on break, but the satellite didn't. I had to get up, but I felt as though I was walking away from a big hand. As I was away from the computer, I just had this gut feeling, I was getting pocket aces folded on me. As soon as I got back, I checked the HH and sure enough AA, folded. I had to just laugh. The best part, I would have been up against KK and 33, both flopped sets. The flopped king, was the case king. I would a lost. But I was lucky not to play that terribly unlucky hand.

I always remind myself, it can get worse. That normally cheers me up.
 
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this thread makes me laugh
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I dropped back to the $5 sitngo's and everything is going well again I am beating this level easily! seems like the only game I can beat:confused: lol

However I do want to move back up to the $10 sitngo's again, just wanted to know what you guys would recommend as a bankroll for the $10 sng's and me multitabling playing 4 tables at once?

Just so I know when I can move back up and have another crack at beating this level!
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I dropped back to the $5 sitngo's and everything is going well again I am beating this level easily! seems like the only game I can beat:confused: lol

However I do want to move back up to the $10 sitngo's again, just wanted to know what you guys would recommend as a bankroll for the $10 sng's and me multitabling playing 4 tables at once?

Just so I know when I can move back up and have another crack at beating this level!
Why not review your hands and see what the major difference is between the 2 levels, try to figure out why you can't seem to beat the $10 STTs.

Maybe your not giving your opponents credit for having a hand or your giving your opponents too much credit and folding too often.
 
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I really dont know why I cannot beat that level, to be honest I have only played it for two days and played around 80 sng's in the two days but I lost around about $150 in that time. :confused:

i will certainly take that on board shinedown and whenever I lose A pot I will try and review it, to see what I have done wrong. should have done that when I moved up, too late now I suppose lool

Thanks for the advice though man.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I dropped back to the $5 sitngo's and everything is going well again I am beating this level easily! seems like the only game I can beat:confused: lol

However I do want to move back up to the $10 sitngo's again, just wanted to know what you guys would recommend as a bankroll for the $10 sng's and me multitabling playing 4 tables at once?

Just so I know when I can move back up and have another crack at beating this level!

Sounds like you were just running badly @ the $10's if you are now beating the $5's and the only variable in your game that's changed is you now actually winning half of the flips while the players are just as bad.

It's good that you moved back down to ride out the bad variance. I wish I had done the same sometime ago. You can't rush it, but that's easier said than done for most of us.

It's either a bad coincedence that we all run bad as soon as we decide to move up the latter or the losses at the higher stakes after moving up have a magnified impact on use mentally. Probably both, but definitely the latter.

There's a certain sense of entitlement that comes with moving up. You think along the lines of, "Alright, I've finally made it to the next level and I can't believe that the players are still this bad. This will be a breeze! It's my time and I always knew I could do it! :D"

*Insert bad variance*


" Are you ****in' kidding! How can this happen to me. I'm too good! If only I could get off to a better start at these limit's I could handle a few losses down the line, no problem, but not right now. I just moved up do I really have to move back down?!:rolleyes: "

*Insert more bad variance*

"OMFG, rigged BS! I'll show them by not moving down, sticking to my A game and riding it out! I'm better than this!:mad:"

*Insert tilt + more bad variance*

"No one runs worse than me in poker. Why didn't I just move down?:("

:D, :rolleyes:, :mad:, :( and now you're a manic depressive! :cool:
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I dropped back to the $5 sitngo's and everything is going well again I am beating this level easily! seems like the only game I can beat:confused: lol

However I do want to move back up to the $10 sitngo's again, just wanted to know what you guys would recommend as a bankroll for the $10 sng's and me multitabling playing 4 tables at once?

Just so I know when I can move back up and have another crack at beating this level!

At least 50 buyins, preferably more like 100. The number of tables you're playing should have any bearing on it.
 
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Yeah I think I am going to go for near the 100 buy in mark before I move up seening as I ran so badly last time. OZExorcist did you mean it shouldn't have any bearing how many tables I am playing??
 
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I mean the number of tables you're playing has nothing to do with whether you're rolled for a level or not - whether you're playing one, two, ten or twenty tables, either you have your 50 / 100 / whatever buy ins for the level and you're rolled for it or you don't and you're not. So it doesn't matter that you're four-tabling, the requirement is still the same.
 
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Its funny how the "races/coinflips" stopped when dropping back down.

Why is nobody ever able to consider the fact they might not be good enough yet to beat the next level up.
 
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