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Are Turbo Tournaments on Full Tilt generally harder than regular tournaments? Are their any specific ways to play turbo tournaments?
 
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No. They have more variance because you are thrust into push.fold situations quicker. The hardest tournaments would be the ones with long blind schedules and high buy-ins.

Study up on M theory and push fold stack size ratio stuff. Ask Dakota she's Queen of the MTTers.
 
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IMO, The tournaments might be harder in a big MTT with the blinds moving slower. However at the Sit n Go level, I dont find this to be the case. I think at the 6 to 45 person sng's that more regulars play the turbos than the longer blinds. I think it's all about what they can make in an hourly rate so therefore they want quicker and more games. Just my opinion.
 
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IMO, The tournaments might be harder in a big MTT with the blinds moving slower. However at the Sit n Go level, I dont find this to be the case. I think at the 6 to 45 person sng's that more regulars play the turbos than the longer blinds. I think it's all about what they can make in an hourly rate so therefore they want quicker and more games. Just my opinion.

In the 9plyr games YES for sure but the 45's have their own group of regs. in them (lots of MTT players who also play the 45's.. there's a poker forum that has just a TON of them on it).
 
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It's a different skill set to a degree. There are key things you want to get some info./knowledge on if playing Turbo MTTs (although also obv. applicable to reg. speed ones, just not as early into them).
Things to look into:
playing on diff. stack sizes (ie. when we're sitting with 14-22bb's (although sometimes less than this in Turbo in LL's), we're looking for spots to resteal-shove with over a raiser. This is the perfect sized stack to do this with.) another > once we have <15-20bb'ish' we generally tighten up a bit on our open-raise range as we're not going to want to be raise/folding on a stack of this size).

It's crucial to try to maintain a stack that has fold equity!

(side brag: I final tabled the 'TurboHundo' on FTP this week, although I'm not much of a Turbo player & rarely play in them.... but might start playing them more often now! lol).
note: some SNG players transitioning to MTT play will often get into playing the Turbo MTTs as they're likely to have a good shove/fold game & are used to playing on shorter stacks.
 
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Avoid the Hyper Turbos unless you want to play all-in chicken for the first ten hands.
 
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not much difference to me but i agree with orifice about the skill set point of view.
 
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The smaller your starting stack and the faster the blind structure, the more variance in tournament play. With regular MTTs you can expect as much as 200-buyin variance, but with turbos it gets to be closer to 400. The super turbos with 1 to 3-minute blinds probably have a variance of about 2,000 buyins because they're pure lottery, especially if you've got opponents who time out every hand they fold (as some of the more skillful super turbo players do). Of course, it depends on your skill level at that type of tournament and the quality of the opposition.

I personally like the cheapo guaranteed rebuy turbos. In the ones I play on Party, the buyin and entry fee are $1.60+.40 and each rebuy/addon is $1.60. There is typically a 1K to 2K guarantee. The rebuy round is wild and loose with six callers seeing every flop and frequent four-way all ins. If you play smart, tight poker you can see only one flop in the first hour and still quadruple your stack. That happened to me yesterday! Then, following the addon break, about half of the remaining field fail to adjust to the new playing conditions and get eliminated quickly on stupid shoves and calls. The only drawback with these tournaments is that it typically takes about four hours to make the cut and as long as 11 hours to finish 1st. The positive is that you stand to win $900 on an $8.20 investment, which ain't too bad even if it takes 11 hours.
 
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They are harder for me - like PO said it is a different skill set. I thrive with deep stacks and longer blind levels.
 
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turbo tournaments, I believe that is true bingo, someone will have more luck and he will win! this is my opinion
 
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turbo tournaments, I believe that is true bingo, someone will have more luck and he will win! this is my opinion

Tell that to 'The Lab Rat' on fulltiltpoker. I got a feeling he might disagree (either that or perhaps he just runs better than most... 'often').
 
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I prefer bigger stacks and longer blinds levels. In those turbos you get too much "bingo" situations. My strategy on playing turbos is to wait for premium hands...i always get paid. Sometimes i get suckouted, but it works for me overall.
 
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I have started to like turbo tournaments. I also think the shove factor is can be a nice way to blow off steam!
 
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I have started to like turbo tournaments. I also think the shove factor is can be a nice way to blow off steam!

I don't know about you, but I don't like to "blow off steam" with my money. On a side note, I agree with dakota, big stacks and slow blind levels are more my style. I don't like to have to rely on a coin flip to move forward in a tournament as I often have to do in turbos/superturbos with shorter beginning chip stacks.
 
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