Full Tilt 1.10, 2.25, 3.30 45, 90 player skill levels and strategy?

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Hey guys, I've recently started to play 1.10 FT 90 player SnGs, I found them really tame with low skill levels but the pay out isn't very good until the top 5, and even first place isn't that large for the amount of time put in, I don't like multitabling yet so I don't do more than two at a time. I've looked but haven't played the 2.25 and 3.30 levels and I'm wondering about the skill level of players there?

At 1.10 there isn't much skill at all, I've found that tight aggressive play works really well, I tend to play extremely tight out of position even with low blinds, I ignore stuff like KQ and QJ out of position because raising with them always seems to cost too much and you're too easily dominated by hands that are better and just called like JJ, AJ, or AQ. Today I played in most of one but I had to leave right before the money bubble and I came back to find I went out in 13th which is only 1.80, .70 cents is not worth 2 hours of play to me.

I was hoping for some strategy suggestions before I move up to 2.25 level, I don't want to go in unprepared, does nitty poker not work well at that level? Is the skill level similar or the same as 1.10?
 
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Play on 3.30 and high))))) On 1.1 very many stupid against which any strategy does not work.... You wish to receive not only profit but also pleasure then go on limits above.... Though and there meet inadequate
 
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I think U have to loose your game when the blinds grow...

Playing too much tight you'll get some money, but won't won the major prize.
 
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If you can beat the $1.10 you should be able to beat $3.30 as well. Just remember proper bankroll management.
I dont play those sng's but my guess is that the $3.30 is pretty lame as well, just a bit more nitty.
Standard tight agressive play will work fine on the next level as well.
 
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I think U have to loose your game when the blinds grow...

Playing too much tight you'll get some money, but won't won the major prize.

Yeah, I forgot to add in that once blinds get higher I'm raising with position into tight players and stealing unbet pots on the flop or even turn with semibluffs in position.
 
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Well I've only played one 1.10, but I made it to the final table. Even though I made it to the final table like you said it wasn't really worth it. It took me like 4 hours to make it to 5th or 6th place. I don't like the 1.10 90 man SnG i because it is a double stack and 18 people get paid. I would rather see one where the top 9 get paid because the payouts in the 1.10 are too low.

Also for whatever reason I don't think they have a 2.25 90 person or 45 person, instead the 2.25 level has a 180 and the other micro levels don't have that game.
For the 3.30 they only have a 90 person double stack turbo knockout which is pretty fun, but if you don't like turbo or knockout then this isn't a good tourny for you.

right now if I had to play any of the multi table SnG I would pick the 2.25 27 person one. I would love it if they had one with 45 or 90 people though.
 
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I played a 2.25 27 table today, mostly skill level was the same as 1.10 but I noticed more and better stealing techniques as blinds increased and bubble grew closer, went out on a steal shove preflop AJ vs. AQ with me holding AJ...
 
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If you can beat the $1.10 you should be able to beat $3.30 as well. Just remember proper bankroll management.
I dont play those sng's but my guess is that the $3.30 is pretty lame as well, just a bit more nitty.
Standard tight agressive play will work fine on the next level as well.

^^^^^^ This

Be sure to follow proper BRM. To play at 2.20 you need to have at least $110 playing by the 50 buy in rule. For 3.30 you need $165
 
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im almost sure the 330 sitngo's start at only 300 hundred chips so to me it's like the tourny made FOR DONKYS!I've found the knockout tourny's to be more competitive honesty.The 1.10 sng's are pathetic but with the level of play in these tournys you should rack up!Nevermind the level of play just get paid!
 
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i play 14 dollar 90 player sit and goes with knokouts its very good tournament and the best one i ever played i stick to that
 
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The 3.30 deepstacked knockout tourneys are very tame, full of fish. I think they are busy trying to knock each other out for the 0.50 bounty so if you just play nice and tight you are almost guaranteed to double up when you hit a big hand. With the deepstack you can sit there and not play a hand for the first few levels and still have a big enough stack to play around with...
 
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id bump up to 2.25 and 3.330, the skill level is pretty soft and you can bluff alot of pots, but dont go crazy. its also a much better payout when you cash at the 2.25 and 3.30 games
 
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with fulltilt especially i have noticed that unlike some other websites they stack the money at the top so unless you place like top 5 most times, your not really winning that much money
 
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If you can beat the $1.10 you should be able to beat $3.30 as well. Just remember proper bankroll management.
I dont play those sng's but my guess is that the $3.30 is pretty lame as well, just a bit more nitty.
Standard tight agressive play will work fine on the next level as well.

Good suggestions 'except', the play in the $3.30 KO 90plyr. is far from being more nitty.... in fact it is just the opposite - - that tournament attracts some of the worst players on the site, TONS of way over-valuing, overaggroball players, very clueless, with just a TON of really bad play.
In the $1 90plyr. you'll see more loose/passive play (players calling down really, really light... any piece of it so value-betting the hell out of them should be your goal). In the $3 90-plyr. KO, it is 'turbo' blind structure and you'll see just the opposite of what you'll typically see in the $1 90's... huge overbets, ridiculous bet-sizing, players willing to get it while on deepstacks with very marginal hands.
Personally I wouldn't make it a goal to play the $3 KO 90's. I think you'd be better off playing the $2 180's.

As far as the consideration of how much you make over a certain time period, it really depends upon what your goals are for playing in the micros. Playing field sizes of 45-180plyrs., you'll often go many games in succession with zero cashes (ie. times where you'll go deep, then get it in w AA/KK and get donked by 88/77, etc., or where you'll be so cardead that you'll blind down to ~10bb's, shove in a good spot.. or what seems to be good & then get called down light & lose, etc. etc.,.. it's the nature of MTT/SNG play... be prepared for it).
Instead perhaps look at it as >>> time spent as a learning experience, working towards more long-term goals for playing poker.
 
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The 3.30 deepstacked knockout tourneys are very tame, full of fish. I think they are busy trying to knock each other out for the 0.50 bounty so if you just play nice and tight you are almost guaranteed to double up when you hit a big hand. With the deepstack you can sit there and not play a hand for the first few levels and still have a big enough stack to play around with...

Much more this ^

"playerk - id bump up to 2.25 and 3.330, the skill level is pretty soft and you can bluff alot of pots"

and much 'less' this ^

You don't want to be bluffing alot in the $3KO's, players call off wide & will also reraise/shove over real wide too so your monsters are likely to get paid off, even if you're just sitting there folding & folding & folding.
The $8 180max. MTT's are quite lame too (although they're better than the $3's for sure) and pretty much same applies for them (in early levels).
 
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The $2 180s are the way to go if you wanna build a BR. If you play 10 a day you should FT at least one and hopefully take first or 2nd=money back and some profit.
PO has some good advice, lots of book theory and tonnes of table experience. His advice is worth listening too.

GL
 
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