Originally Posted by TopFuel
Recently I set aside 20 buy-ins to play $7 turbo six max sng my target was a ROI of 5% and then to move up the buy-ins.firstly, 20buyins really isn't much of a roll, i'm all for aggressive bankroll management, but it just causes you to get stressed about results and makes you results orientated, distracing you from the really important things, like your next hand/study. Also, having ROI goals isn't really a great plan, it takes literally thousands of games to determine a ballpark figure of ROI and guess what? ROI is really out of your hands in the short term, the luck factor or "variance" will determine that. The only thing we can do is make good decisions as often as we can.
After about 300 games I had reached my target of $300 and so began playing $15 turbo six max sng. My next target being $900 for $30 games and an increased roll of 30 buy-ins over the original 20 for the 7/15 levels.This is an extremely agressive bankroll management. i honestly think you are trying to move up far too quickly. Just bc you have money or a 'roll' does not in any way mean you can beat the $15 games or the $30 games. I reg the $15s turbo 6max games at the moment and i'd want a minimum of $8-900 to play them comfortably i only have 700 on my account but i have backup funds if i ever need to, so i'm comfortably rolled to play, and i'm not worried about short term results. So overall taking shots is fine, if you are good enough, and if you are happy to move back down and grind your way back up again. Honestly, from the stuff i've read, i don't think you are good enough to beat the $15s. Obviously i could be wrong and i'm not having a go at you, but it's tough to beat the games today, everyone plays pretty good now
And true to form this is where it all has fallen apart. I am now down $345 having wiped out my $300 bankroll and so on.
This keeps happening to me whether it is trying to move up the limits in sng or cash. And as I said above it has happened so many times now that it is getting very wearing!!!whenever i see a player trying to suceed in two formats, it's almost always a case of them not understanding that mastering a actually beating a particular level is far more beneficial than trying to get "good" at multiple stakes or poker variants. You are better off trying to master a particular game/buyin level, that way you will have the basic skills to be able to beat another game or particular game.
What I want to try and establish more than anything is what is going on here. I have a few ideas and would welcome other peoples thoughts and experiences.Yep, you are not mastering one level, one buyin. you are likely mixing games too often. Learning to beat any level is tough, especially nowadays. In the past you could get away with a basic push/fold type game, but it's not the case anymore, especially in 6max games where your edges really only come from constructing solid 3/4betting ranges, and from postflop play.
1 The level of play at the next level up is just too good for me (I dont really buy this as I have heard it said that there isnt much difference for example in cash games between 1/2 cent and 1/2 dollar in all reality and it only starts getting drastically more tough higher up)
That is total nonsense. 1/2 dollar is going to play far tougher than 1/2 cent, not only bc the players are better, but bc you have to learn to handle the bigger swings.
2 When I move up I start experiencing what I call invincible syndrome - ie I am so high from getting to the point where I can move up that I start thinking that I am far better than I am and then end up being crushed at the new level, by trying to win too many pots and generally being overly aggressive fancy play syndrome etc.
3 It is just variance and I need to carry on it will turn around in the end
4 I was just damn lucky to get to where I could move up and it was a fluke
5 The standards are just so much higher now than when I first began and there are some excellent players at 1/2cent cash and $1 sng for example.
6 Online Poker is rigged - Ok I threw that one in for some light relief and to get the idiots going who believe that rubbish :-)
I am not sure what is happening and as you can probably tell it is really causing me megga frustration so any constructive and well meant comments will be very welcome
Thanks in advance