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My local casino operates a bi/tri annual poker tournament called the CPC (Colorado Poker Championship) and this past 3 weeks it has been running with the Main Event over the Memorial Day weekend. This has historically been a very well-run tournament (although this time there were some questionable occurrences) but, generally speaking, this time lived up to reputation. We didn’t get the draw we had hoped for, due to the holiday weekend and all, but did get 192 entrants in two flights to the $1K buy-in main event.

I played in Flight B and was one of the 61 players returning for day 2. The average stack was about $120K and I had $107K to start the day.

I got moved to a new table about 90 minutes into day 2 and immediately noticed the table I was moved to was populated with very good semi-professional players all around; except for the player immediately to my right. I had heard the stories the whole tournament t about this guy, the guy that would not fold to any bet under any situation, and knew exactly who he was from all the griping that had been going on the last few days; of course he had $400K+.

My first hand at the table I received :10c4: :10h4: and raised from the BB after my infamous foe limped the button; he called my raise, naturally. The flop was rags only with no higher than a 7 and I ended up increasing my stack to around $160K because he would not fold the 7 3 off suit he limped the button with. So that was nice and I was thinking “thanks buddy that really helped.”

I remained at this table for the next 3 hours and noticed that the rest of the table was steering clear of this guy. Here we were at the final 4 tables of a $1K buy-in event and we were blind versus blind at least 8 times. How many times have you seen that? There are always exponentially more raises and 3-bets at this stage, especially from late positions. He would habitually limp in, even with just him and I in the pot, and call any raise I or the player to my left would make from the blinds. I was 2/8 in beating him in these situations (one of them was the 10 10 hand) as he would always catch some stupid bullshit and my stack began to suffer; before long I was right at $100K.

There was one hand that I was not involved in but involved an open raise, a 3-bet, and then this player 4-betting with aces. He made a comment about how well he played them to the whole table and I said,

Me - “Yeah I can understand the 4-bet”,

Him – “no I raised”

Me – “Yes I know, you 4-bet the pot”

Him – “I didn’t bet anything, I raised”

Me – “Sigh!”

</p>The blinds went up to $2K $4K with a $500 ante and everyone folded to the wild card, he limped the button for $4K yet again (at least the 12th time he had done this in the 3 hours I played with him).

From the SB I picked up :jc4: :js4:

Normally, I would raise to $16500 in this position, however, in my attempt to get this A-hole to fold or pay big money to see a flop, I raised to $24K. The BB folded and then this guy raises me and makes it $48K (also because he had no idea what he was doing and just doubled the bet when he did bet/raise).

This guy is literally driving me nuts. However, I know he is a jack-tard and therefore must think that his 3-bet here is a legitimate hand; I just didn’t think he was capable of making that move with anything less than K K. He could have A K, maybe, but I don’t think he 3-bets with it. Nonetheless, I can’t let this continue to happen, if I have any chance at winning this tournament it is through this guy, and I can’t keep letting him run the table over without an inkling of aggression, and if I am racing, I must take that here.

I thought about this for probably close to 3 minutes but the whole time I was thinking about it I couldn’t escape one thought, “I know what has to be done here, stop stalling”. So I move all-in and he calls and shows :kc4: :kh4:

Flop:
:jh4: :kd4: :jd4:

Turn:
:ks4:

River:
:2h4:

Yes that sucks, especially considering if it were a cash game I would have won $100K.

The part that really frustrates me though is that I was nearly sure that I was behind but still had to call anyway. I put my money in knowing I was almost certainly behind, and we all know that’s a bad way to play poker. But is this one of those rare situations where there isn’t really much that I can do?

Consider the alternative and that is that he raises his button with KK and the tournament chip lead like he should. I would almost certainly 3-bet all-in as any legitimate 3-bet would be greater than 30% of my stack. But that would have been sooo much easier to take, instead I lost with quads to a A-hole that doesn’t have the slightest idea what’s going on; he certainly had absolutely no business in a $1K buy-in poker tournament.

In the end I finished in 37th place, a respectable top 20% finish with no money and a burning desire to murder this ****ing guy.
 
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ewww. I feel like I need to take a shower after reading that. I have never lost with quads. Would prolly cry myself to sleep if I did it late in a big tourny.

not to add on to the pain but you prolly would go on to take his stack considering your position and how much better you are going to play postflop.

goodluck at the next one. hopefully you can forget about this.
 
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To start, I hate players like that too, but im trying my hardest to respect them. Everyone else was staying away from him and he knocked you out.
 
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Ew. That's gross. That guy will lose in the end though. Just keep playing your game. Solid play is solid play. Good luck man
 
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wow. you should get a bonus for that. thats just sickening.
 
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oh my dear, this situation must have been awful, can fully understand you, i also hate to play these guys near to the bubble, in 75% i cant beat them even with much better hands
 
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The part that really sucks (I mean more than losing with quads) is that I could have folded and retained 25BB. With 60 minute levels, anything can happen and that’s not too bad a scenario. I knew I was behind but just couldn’t lay them down because I felt like I had to make a stand with this guy; kind of a better to die standing up and shooting philosophy.

I was playing again today and word had gotten around about what happened, everyone was sympathetic, at least that’s what they said; who knows though, they could be thinking that I’m an idiot.

Then, what really stings is while I was playing today; the final table for the event I got knocked out of yesterday started; guess who was there with the third largest stack? Man, that stings, so bad I can’t even express it – WTF? He knocked out some of the best players in Colorado en-route to that final table. I’ve never seen anything like it in a live poker room and at the $1K stakes.

Sometimes this game is so frustrating – I wish I would have folded in hindsight, but it likely would have simply delayed the inevitable. Thoughts? Should I have folded?
 
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ARGH! I used to hate playing these types, and no one seems to know what to do, or gets weary of them sucking out. Simply put, you gotta find a situation where you know you got the goods and no hand he could have has much of a chance of improving - at the same time he must have something he just will not fold, and be willing to call an all in. Success in this two or three times can actually cause this type to be wary of you for a change. It's just hard to get that type of situation! Sometimes I'll limp a big pair, and if he calls my decent post flop bet on a dry board, I'll just shove on the turn. Risky, but you would be surprised how often someone like this will call a middle pair to your overpair, thinking your bluffing. And if you flop a set, well...you should have him.
 
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There are 3 ways to play JJ and they are all wrong.
Always liked that joke.
 
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