Are Free Rolls poker?

#1 September 27th, 2020, 1:44 PM

Since you're not really risking anything but your time is this really Poker?
Most of the time it's more like a lottery with All Ins on the first hand.
Would you do that if you paid to be in the tournament?
Would you risk your cash and chance to advance so blindly pre-flop if you had money on the line?

#2 September 27th, 2020, 2:43 PM

Any time you play poker it is poker. It doesn't matter if you are playing for nothing, for apples or for money - you are still playing poker.

If you spend zero dollars, $1 or $100 - you are still playing poker.

Does it change how people play - yes it does. Most people will not play their best game when they have nothing on the line. But - it is still poker.

#3 September 27th, 2020, 2:58 PM

Last time i checked,yes,they are poker. Are Free Rolls poker?

#4 September 28th, 2020, 5:14 AM

At the start of free entry tournaments, players certainly make bolder moves, but these moves occur because some think this is the best strategy for this type of tournament, as they have a large number of players and the biggest payouts are for players. players who reach the final table.

#5 September 28th, 2020, 5:22 AM

It's not easy for many players to shove their entire chips onto cards.

#6 September 28th, 2020, 5:32 AM

Originally Posted by calicronic

Since you're not really risking anything but your time is this really Poker?
Most of the time it's more like a lottery with All Ins on the first hand.
Would you do that if you paid to be in the tournament?
Would you risk your cash and chance to advance so blindly pre-flop if you had money on the line?

Many who pay to be in a tournament gamble early. Some even try to win the tournament in the first hour and rarely ever succeed.

Once those people get knocked out it plays like any other.

#7 September 28th, 2020, 6:09 AM

I consider freerolls as poker, of course a different type of poker, a more crazy aggressive type of poker.

#8 September 28th, 2020, 6:19 AM

For some people, it�s the way they begin their bankroll. Yes, of course it�s poker. Are Free Rolls poker?

#9 September 28th, 2020, 6:49 AM

Hi! Not all freerolls are a lottery. If the Freeroll has a good structure, not too many people and good prize money, then it is quite a high-quality game. But of course you need to make an effort to get into such freerolls. Isn't this a kind of fee for participating in the game?

#10 September 28th, 2020, 7:26 AM

Also in satellites as well as in freerolls the game often turns into roulette ...

#11 September 28th, 2020, 7:55 AM

Of course it is still poker. they are very hard to win. Especially beacuse of the huge variance of tipes of players and stiles. alll ins witth 27 off allmost cleaning you out. To make it to the end you have to sort through many obstcles and good play is rewarde ( especially reading your opponent)

#12 September 28th, 2020, 8:26 AM

For one person, a loss of $ 10K is a small loss, and for another, a gain of $ 3 is a big gain )))

#13 September 28th, 2020, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by Debi

Any time you play poker it is poker. It doesn't matter if you are playing for nothing, for apples or for money - you are still playing poker.

If you spend zero dollars, $1 or $100 - you are still playing poker.

Does it change how people play - yes it does. Most people will not play their best game when they have nothing on the line. But - it is still poker.

Debi nailed the explanation.

The only thing I would add is that while freerolls ARE still poker - they are NOT gambling because one doesn't risk anything.

Different tournaments with different structures use different poker muscles.

If you don't like freerolls then do yourself a favor and don't play them.

Good luck !

#14 September 28th, 2020, 9:19 AM

Originally Posted by Poker_Mike

If you don't like freerolls then do yourself a favor and don't play them.

Exactly. I guess, frustrations like those expressed by OP stems from the fact, people want to sit down and have a free hour or two of entertainment. And with wild players on the table your choises are often limited to going all in or fold. So you dont get into any postflop spots, which tend to be more interesting. And if you call, there is the risk of an early exit. However you did not pay anything to participate either, and everyone can play, as they want. So if you want a tournament with more postflop play and less risk of an early exist, then just pay for instance 5$ to play. What you pay is what you get Are Free Rolls poker?

#15 September 28th, 2020, 10:54 AM

It all depends on the player,how they feel about the game in General...Whether it's a Freeroll or a tournament with bitcoin...

#16 September 28th, 2020, 12:03 PM

Freerolls may look like a lottery, but only for players for whom poker is a lottery in general. I'm sure freerolls are the best option for beginners to get the experience they need. For me, it doesn't matter if I play in a freeroll or a buy-in tournament, I always try to play the right game and make adequate decisions.

#17 September 28th, 2020, 1:23 PM

Originally Posted by black and

Freerolls may look like a lottery, but only for players for whom poker is a lottery in general.

Whenever people complain about soft games like freerolls being "a lottery", I also cant help feeling, they sort of dont understand poker. Yes I get it, those wild players increase variance. But against better players you are also going to be all in and at risk at some point. It just happen a bit later in the tournament, when blinds have gone up, and they usually have a more reasonable hand.

But its still luck, which determine, if your AQ gets there, or their 99 hold. So why is this totally different from getting your AQ all in early on against someone with the Doyle Brunson hand T2, because they think, its fun? AQ has a better chance to beat T2 than 99, so if your goal is winning, you should be happy about someone willing to get it in with T2.

#18 September 28th, 2020, 1:29 PM

I think freerolls must seen a little different to tournaments with buy in. At the beggining of a freeroll, there is a huge number of players and some of them are gambling and bingo playing...but later when u survive all these kind of players u can compare freeroll to tournament with usual buy in Are Free Rolls poker?

#19 September 28th, 2020, 1:34 PM

The other day while playing a freeroll there was this one guy who complained every single hand about All INN's. But he was the one doing most off it.

#20 September 28th, 2020, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by horscht22

At the beggining of a freeroll, there is a huge number of players and some of them are gambling and bingo playing...but later when u survive all these kind of players u can compare freeroll to tournament with usual buy in Are Free Rolls poker?

True. And if you want to gamble with them, then you do have something in front of you called a fold button, which it is allowed to use Are Free Rolls poker?

#21 September 28th, 2020, 5:10 PM

I agree 100% with Debbie's comment, any poker is poker, and people do tend to play different when they don't have anything on the line.

I personally still won't join the rest of the bingo game players, unless I have high pockets, but will take a few more chances that I may not have otherwise taken.

#22 September 29th, 2020, 12:38 AM

Bottom line for me, I play to win if there is money of any kind involved. Other wise I'm not playing the tournament.

#23 September 29th, 2020, 12:46 AM

So close today darn it 3rd tried hard lol Are Free Rolls poker?

Winning freerolls is still enjoyable and are a good stepping stone to the higher stakes games.
Are Free Rolls poker?

#24 September 29th, 2020, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by calicronic

Since you're not really risking anything but your time is this really Poker?
Most of the time it's more like a lottery with All Ins on the first hand.
Would you do that if you paid to be in the tournament?
Would you risk your cash and chance to advance so blindly pre-flop if you had money on the line?

If you make it to the final 2 tables of a freeroll, you will see it is very much real poker, with some very good players and maybe one or two lucky donks.

Especially the CC freerolls. The people in these freerolls are way better than your run of the mill player off the street. If you can cash in the mean streets of the CC Freerolls, you have a real chance of doing well in money tournaments.

Would I go all in first hand? yes. IF there are rebuys or I have AA. I would probably not be the first all in, but I would call one.

I have also pushed all-in in real money tournaments. Again, if there are rebuys, and if I have a premium hand. The whole point of having AA is to get as much as your money in the pot as you can while you're ahead.

#25 September 29th, 2020, 1:00 AM

I dont look at the buy in as this is a free or $1 or $10 tournament. I look at the first place money and that is what the tournament is to me. Also I play a freeroll like I play any tournament, I play to take the 1st place money.

#26 September 29th, 2020, 2:04 AM

Cardschat freerolls are not as soft as some may think. The prize pool is also nice. Yesterday, I played two freerolls on SwC poker and guess what?! 1st place on 1st and 2nd place on 2nd Are Free Rolls poker?

Played more than 10 Cardschat freerolls, could not cash in one.

#27 September 29th, 2020, 3:06 AM

Originally Posted by arenaci

Cardschat freerolls are not as soft as some may think. The prize pool is also nice.

It depends which level. On the platinum level most players are fairly serious, and its not much different than playing a normal 1-5$ MTT. Near the bubble they even tend to be a nitty affair sometimes, as apparently a 70c min-cash is very important to a lot of people Are Free Rolls poker?

#28 September 29th, 2020, 6:44 AM

It�s real poker, you really need to have some good skills to survive first half of the freeroll tournament, and to make some really tough decisions to go to the final stages. And of course,some time you have to be lucky. I think that they are not more different than micro stakes, and you have to know how to play in freerolls, need to have some kind of strategy that works that specific freeroll(not every freeroll is the same)

#29 September 30th, 2020, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by fundiver199

Whenever people complain about soft games like freerolls being "a lottery", I also cant help feeling, they sort of dont understand poker. Yes I get it, those wild players increase variance. But against better players you are also going to be all in and at risk at some point. It just happen a bit later in the tournament, when blinds have gone up, and they usually have a more reasonable hand.

But its still luck, which determine, if your AQ gets there, or their 99 hold. So why is this totally different from getting your AQ all in early on against someone with the Doyle Brunson hand T2, because they think, its fun? AQ has a better chance to beat T2 than 99, so if your goal is winning, you should be happy about someone willing to get it in with T2.

I absolutely agree with you. Obviously, players who play with garbage give us a real opportunity to increase our bankroll. That's why freerolls are always a good opportunity for me, no matter what my opponents are.

#30 September 30th, 2020, 12:50 PM

Freeroll game is the same poker game where beginners and less solvent players want to win and prizes Are Free Rolls poker?

#31 October 2nd, 2020, 6:35 PM

Its still poker, just you have to change basic strategy . Increase bet sizing and strong hands play very aggressive, to be allin before the river

#32 October 2nd, 2020, 10:12 PM

Yea, it is still poker. But as many have stated.....you are just not going to find the same seriousness in regards to freerolls. I just try to play every game, no matter the buy in, as solid as I can. At the end of the day take comfort in that fact regardless of the outcome. Best of luck to you!

#33 October 3rd, 2020, 1:17 AM

Free tournaments are an opportunity to bankroll and guide you on a professional path, because playing a freeroll correctly means you have discipline.

#34 October 3rd, 2020, 3:02 AM

By the time you get to the final table the crappy players are eliminated and you get to play some poker.

#35 October 5th, 2020, 1:24 AM

The free roll is useful for a study of a cash game.

But it's very inefficient compared with studying a cash game by itself.

#36 October 5th, 2020, 10:30 AM

It doesn't matter a free tournament or a buy-in, there are unique personalities everywhere who have come to allay their boredom. By betting allin with any two cards.

#37 October 5th, 2020, 12:45 PM

slightly different from playing with buy-in but still poker

#38 October 5th, 2020, 1:55 PM

Poker is poker - If you play for fun or with friends.

Its not football, tennis or anything else, just Poker.

The players don't make the game, the rules do.

#39 October 5th, 2020, 3:41 PM

This is poker. A great game. You can also experience wave mountains and valleys but it is only a game if you stay within your comfort zone.
You just have to enjoy the trip. Are Free Rolls poker?

#40 October 8th, 2020, 11:58 PM

I love a good freeroll teaches you to be patience for one thing, when all the bingo players are done,

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