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Hi guys, I just want your opinion on folding trips in tourneys if the board is not paired and doesn't have any straight or flush posibilities.

I was early in an stt today having 22 and the board comes KQ9, villain checks and I check then the turn is a turn. I bet 3/4 pot on turn and get called. I bet 3/4pot again on the river and get re-raised (the river is a 6 or so). I call the re-raise and villain shows KK.

Should you ever fold pp when you hit a set, if there is no straight/flush options?

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I assume the "turn is a turn" was "turn is a two". I think in this situation it's possible to lay them down but you have no info on the preflop action? Vill could easily have TJ and also you have reversed the action between flop and turn, were you checked to on the turn before betting the 3/4 pot? (same on river).

Obv vill slow played the KK very well and got paid. With anything poker related usually a factor of "It Depends" and you leave out a lot of info. there are 28 combo's of hands he could have that crush your set (think i got that right lol) and no preflop info makes it difficult to possible discount any of those or not.

Limit? Preflop Action? 9 or 6 man stt? but in general often difficult to lay down the set even if bottom set but you mention no straight options when the flop was a JT straight option.
 
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I assume the "turn is a turn" was "turn is a two". I think in this situation it's possible to lay them down but you have no info on the preflop action? Vill could easily have TJ and also you have reversed the action between flop and turn, were you checked to on the turn before betting the 3/4 pot? (same on river).

Obv vill slow played the KK very well and got paid. With anything poker related usually a factor of "It Depends" and you leave out a lot of info. there are 28 combo's of hands he could have that crush your set (think i got that right lol) and no preflop info makes it difficult to possible discount any of those or not.

Limit? Preflop Action? 9 or 6 man stt? but in general often difficult to lay down the set even if bottom set but you mention no straight options when the flop was a JT straight option.

Hi there,

sorry for lack of information. It was an $7 nl stt 6max. Sorry, that was my mistake, there was ofcourse a straight option. As you say it's really hard laying down a set especially when the flush isn't there.
 
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pretty tough to lay down a set. The check check flop check call turn and check shove river is a very nutted line IMO. Your read on the player is important in situations where players polarize their range with a line like this so any reads you had would be nice to include here.
 
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what was the action preflop. how much was raised if any?
 
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Well, it's a tough spot, but if there's a straight possibility, overpairs and a lot of action from the opponent, I'd probably be more cautious when it comes to deuces on board like that. What was the action preflop is also relevant question.
 
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pretty tough to lay down a set. The check check flop check call turn and check shove river is a very nutted line IMO. Your read on the player is important in situations where players polarize their range with a line like this so any reads you had would be nice to include here.

The problem is, that it was very early in the tourney, so I hadn't developed a read on anyone, quite yet.

what was the action preflop. how much was raised if any?

He rasied 2,5xbb in the cut off, so i called on the button

Well, it's a tough spot, but if there's a straight possibility, overpairs and a lot of action from the opponent, I'd probably be more cautious when it comes to deuces on board like that. What was the action preflop is also relevant question.

I get your point, but the problem is as I see it, that there wasn't really any action from villain before the river
 
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Set on set is always a tough one.
If there is the possibility of a straight or flush then it can be emotionally difficult to get away from the set but it should always be a consideration.
Getting caught out by a bigger set is one of the disadvantages of playing small pocket pairs. Hence it is really best not to get involved in big pots with them. Folding a small pair preflop in early position is not wrong.
 
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Set on set is always a tough one.
If there is the possibility of a straight or flush then it can be emotionally difficult to get away from the set but it should always be a consideration.
Getting caught out by a bigger set is one of the disadvantages of playing small pocket pairs. Hence it is really best not to get involved in big pots with them. Folding a small pair preflop in early position is not wrong.

I know it's not wrong to fold small pp's preflop, but when i had a chance to see the flop fairly cheap, and then hit my set - i just couldn't let it go, especially because vilain only showed aggression on the river
 
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Hi guys, I just want your opinion on folding trips in tourneys if the board is not paired and doesn't have any straight or flush posibilities.

I was early in an stt today having 22 and the board comes KQ9, villain checks and I check then the turn is a turn. I bet 3/4 pot on turn and get called. I bet 3/4pot again on the river and get re-raised (the river is a 6 or so). I call the re-raise and villain shows KK.

Should you ever fold pp when you hit a set, if there is no straight/flush options?

Thanks

I depends on the player. If he's mega-tight, it can be folded. But I wouldnt fold a set in most cases. We beat all two pairs and top pairs and only a stronger set is better than us.
 
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Hi guys, I just want your opinion on folding trips in tourneys if the board is not paired and doesn't have any straight or flush posibilities.
KQ9 is not a hand with no straight possibilities.
 
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I don't know -- if you've got a good feeling the other player has better bc of the community cards on the board, you'll probably save a *lot* of money folding rather than getting pushed all in to find out what you already suspected.
 
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I would probably have folded preflop but this is light on info.
 
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Villain is KK and the flop is KQ9
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You got screwed:mad:
Hi guys, I just want your opinion on folding trips in tourneys if the board is not paired and doesn't have any straight or flush posibilities.

I was early in an stt today having 22 and the board comes KQ9, villain checks and I check then the turn is a turn. I bet 3/4 pot on turn and get called. I bet 3/4pot again on the river and get re-raised (the river is a 6 or so). I call the re-raise and villain shows KK.

Should you ever fold pp when you hit a set, if there is no straight/flush options?

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I get your point, but the problem is as I see it, that there wasn't really any action from villain before the river

Well, you always have to consider villain was slowplaying on purpose with best hand. He obviously checked flop to trap you..... Unfortunately you caught deuce on turn and didn't let it go ;) again it's tough spot and it happens
 
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Should you ever fold pp when you hit a set, if there is no straight/flush options?

when your sure their range crushes yours yes

not often but it is possible but you need to think more about their and your hand ranges
 
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Early in a STT 22 is not a hand I would play.
Betting the river was probably a mistake, you will only be called by better hands most times.The Villain called a substantial turn bet OOP as he was betting first on the flop, this red flags the hand for me.
 
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Early in a STT 22 is not a hand I would play.
Betting the river was probably a mistake, you will only be called by better hands most times.The Villain called a substantial turn bet OOP as he was betting first on the flop, this red flags the hand for me.
depends on how it happens
 
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