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Pre flop, with no raise or min raise

Should you ever fold early in tourney when average stack?
 
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well there is no reason to drop a hand, normally you play as many hands as possible unless someone re-rise, Tribet or go 10BB.
Before the Flop you need to know the basics hands strength to decide whether to pay,increase or cheq, there are many articles about this an An is very variable. After the flop is a new ball game, straight and flush draws may become very important. :deal:
 
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why would you do that?


Because 9 handed it is almost 70% that someone else holds an A too. So with your 2 kicker do you want to see an A on the flop?
 
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Because 9 handed it is almost 70% that someone else holds an A too. So with your 2 kicker do you want to see an A on the flop?

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An ace by itself I overvalued... Don't get too attached to 1 pair hands.

For me the biggest thing is position. I throw away A2 from utg but I play A2 from any position behind mp (unless someone shows strong aggression in front of me
 
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agree that it has to do with position -a-rag most times doesnt hit the flop -when it does your likey to be upgainst a better ace-playing it to much just bleeds your chips-playing a-rag mid tourny it much better
 
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well there is no reason to drop a hand, normally you play as many hands as possible unless someone re-rise, Tribet or go 10BB.

Before the Flop you need to know the basics hands strength to decide whether to pay,increase or cheq, there are many articles about this an An is very variable. After the flop is a new ball game, straight and flush draws may become very important. :deal:


Thanks, but I'll not be taking this advice ;) 'play as many hands as possible'???
 
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This..

An ace by itself I overvalued... Don't get too attached to 1 pair hands.



For me the biggest thing is position. I throw away A2 from utg but I play A2 from any position behind mp (unless someone shows strong aggression in front of me


Of course, I should have stated EP in opening post
 
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I only play AJ or better. I don't like seeing my ace pair up if my kicker is really low... Maybe if the table is 3 handed it may be a good spot, but definitely not in a 9 handed table. You will always meet someone with a higher kicker, so don't lose a chunk of your stack because you want to play your A-Lowcard!
 
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Greatly depends on kicker, position and playing styles of the people to act after you. Generally, I stick with A10 or higher unless the price is ridiculously cheap and I have something like A5s where I can flop a wheel or nut flush.
 
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I only play AJ or better. I don't like seeing my ace pair up if my kicker is really low... Maybe if the table is 3 handed it may be a good spot, but definitely not in a 9 handed table. You will always meet someone with a higher kicker, so don't lose a chunk of your stack because you want to play your A-Lowcard!

Don't you think youre missing a lot of value by cutting so many hands out of your range?

Maybe it also depends on how deep your stacks are. If you have a medium stack you should play really tight, but if youre shortstacked with 5bb you should probably shove any ace.. And if youre deepstacked you can see a lot of flops without too much damage to your stack
 
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For me it depends on position, UTG I'm not playing just any Ax. Mid position I may play A rag suited, and hope to hit my flush, but it also depends on your play post flop. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you play with an ace tread carefully, don't let that pair block you from thinking what your opponent may be holding
 
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In early position i fold A with everything less then a J. That is on a 9 table. On a 6 table the chances of someone also having an A is off course less.
 
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I play it unless some weird or very large raising.Before I was in a very big hand A2 vs K2 trip 2s my A2 so good.
 
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play tight, Stay tight, Ax - usually sucks until later stage of MTT>

Final table, 3 left. Ax - Power - but dont get too confident.
 
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I fold an Ace quite often. I'm curious about how you feel about flopping a wheel in an unraised pot.
Or Playing A rag when the flop comes A J 8 / A Q 9 / A 10 2 ?

I'm probably more in line with Steven:
For me it depends on position, UTG I'm not playing just any Ax. Mid position I may play A rag suited, and hope to hit my flush, but it also depends on your play post flop. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you play with an ace tread carefully, don't let that pair block you from thinking what your opponent may be holding
 
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a2 to a6 are the worst hands in poker against good players. it's hard to get value from those hands. but in late positions you have more chances to steal blinds.
 
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This..
An ace by itself I overvalued... Don't get too attached to 1 pair hands.

For me the biggest thing is position. I throw away A2 from utg but I play A2 from any position behind mp (unless someone shows strong aggression in front of me

and what do you do if someone calls you and have to decide in flop?
 
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Ace rags get me into trouble. I usually fold outta position.
 
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Don't you think youre missing a lot of value by cutting so many hands out of your range?

Maybe it also depends on how deep your stacks are. If you have a medium stack you should play really tight, but if youre shortstacked with 5bb you should probably shove any ace.. And if youre deepstacked you can see a lot of flops without too much damage to your stack

That's very true.. I play super tight until I make it below 10BB. It's just a method that's worked well for me thus far. I'm sure I can expand my game once I get more comfortable with positioning and reading online tells of my opponents, but until then I think playing super tight is best for me! :)
 
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That's very true.. I play super tight until I make it below 10BB. It's just a method that's worked well for me thus far. I'm sure I can expand my game once I get more comfortable with positioning and reading online tells of my opponents, but until then I think playing super tight is best for me! :)
Yeah, do what works for you. A wider range requires better post flop decisions which can be really hard and is a part of the game I'm working on.
 
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Depends alot on your position,stack,type and stage of the tournament,and the way the people at your table play. Cant make a call with missing information.But i usualy fold them because theese hands are pot-commiting hands,they make u pay alot to see further cards , so i would personaly avoid them.
 
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I fold bad aces a lot. Probably more than would be recommended.

I just feel that they get you into tough spots a lot and when you win they aren't big pots. I'd much rather play connectors than A rag.
 
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