Facing C-bet with high pair + flush draw

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pokerstars - 60/120 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 5 players

UTG: 22.3 BB (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, hands: 30)
CO: 16.52 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 26.49 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 77)
SB: 17.58 BB (VPIP: 16.91, PFR: 7.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 136)
Hero (BB): 18.72 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has Td Jd

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.12 BB, 2 players) 9d Jc 4d
Hero checks, UTG bets 3.74 BB, Hero ??

Whats the correct action here? Can we jam all in?
 
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Villain dependent.

PokerStars - 60/120 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 5 players

UTG: 22.3 BB (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
CO: 16.52 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 26.49 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 77)
SB: 17.58 BB (VPIP: 16.91, PFR: 7.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 136)
Hero (BB): 18.72 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has Td Jd

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.12 BB, 2 players) 9d Jc 4d
Hero checks, UTG bets 3.74 BB, Hero ??

Whats the correct action here? Can we jam all in?


Thanks for posting.
What will the villain do when we jam? What do we want the villain to do? Will villain fold better hands? Will villain fold KdQd. Do you know we are behind that hand? It is a coin flip vs all better hands and if all worse hands fold we get no value. Do you want to flip? Are you ok winning a small pot when you could have 93% equity? 1010 88

Villain seems TAG will villain bluff flop or turn or river? Can we get value from villain if a flush card comes on the turn or river?

Do we know what the 3/4 pot flop bet head-up means? How does that bet compare to the average bet your player pool players make with say AA or AK or 44?

Hope this helps

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Hope this helps

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PokerStars - 60/120 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 5 players

UTG: 22.3 BB (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
CO: 16.52 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 26.49 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 77)
SB: 17.58 BB (VPIP: 16.91, PFR: 7.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.51, Hands: 136)
Hero (BB): 18.72 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has Td Jd

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.12 BB, 2 players) 9d Jc 4d
Hero checks, UTG bets 3.74 BB, Hero ??

Whats the correct action here? Can we jam all in?

It really depends on what the villains tendencies are. If he c bets a lot maybe just peel one off so he keeps bluffing since you have good equity with the top pair with the flush draw. I mean your blocking a lot of his diamond combo's and you also have top pair with a decent kicker. I believe that with the added backdoor straight draw might give you a good reason to just call. You have a lot of good cards that can come for you on the turn and if he barrels again you can get it in then, extracting a little extra value.
 
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I agree with fishfood.

Typically when you have both a made hand and a draw, these are really nice combos to just call when someone is betting because you keep in his bluffs and you're not very worried about getting drawn out on. As a small side benefit, you strengthen your calling range and under-rep your hand (it looks like you're weaker than you are).

Tl;dr: Jamming is fine but my preferred line is calling him down.
 
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I agree with fishfood.

Typically when you have both a made hand and a draw, these are really nice combos to just call when someone is betting because you keep in his bluffs and you're not very worried about getting drawn out on. As a small side benefit, you strengthen your calling range and under-rep your hand (it looks like you're weaker than you are).

Tl;dr: Jamming is fine but my preferred line is calling him down.

Yes, I think good keep the bluff of vilain ant extract more
 
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