Ept 10 London super high roller final table hand

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Ok so I'm watching ept 10 super high roller final table and there's this player Bill Perkins who seems like a bad player to me (since he didn't even know what he had to hit a to win a couple of hands before) and then he busts as 4th with what I considered an obvios missplay but then the commentators and tobias reinkemeier said it was a good desicion so what do you think? Here's how the hand went down: short stack (aprx. 1mil chips) goes all in, chipeader (5mil+) calls then Perkins (aprx. 2.8mil I think) shoves all in with A J. Short stack shows J 9 and chip leader takes it with Q Q. So what would you do? It seemed like and obvious fold to me because I'd feel like someone has a better A than me in this position and also chip leader didn't go all in trying to isolate as they ussually do when they only have an ace with bad kicker or something.
 
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It seemed like and obvious fold to me because I'd feel like someone has a better A than me in this position and also chip leader didn't go all in trying to isolate as they ussually do when they only have an ace with bad kicker or something.

This is pretty big leak on your game if you think that all players just flat calls with big stack with monster hand and i think it would be really bad play to squeese with bad ace, when there are players behind him. And i think they have some reads of each other when they are playing live against many days, so this really is not bad shove for Perkins, because it is 5way table and AJ is pretty strong hand with small stacksizes.
 
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Blinds were 40/80k or so. Only Perkins was behind and you don't think at least one of these two players have you beat? Because if chip leader folded, short stack still could have better hand.. I just fell like if 2 players are willing to put a lot of chips in the pot at least one will have better than A J
 
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Blinds were 40/80k or so. Only Perkins was behind and you don't think at least one of these two players have you beat? Because if chip leader folded, short stack still could have better hand.. I just fell like if 2 players are willing to put a lot of chips in the pot at least one will have better than A J

If short stack was on btn and he is shoving like 12bb and sb flat calls that, i think AJ is many times ahead of their range and if we are reshoving this spot we have to just beat small blind to make our play profitable. But if we think this spot on icm, we could fold, because payjumps are allways huge in this stage, but Perkins is a rich businessman and i think he is only playing for victory in these tournaments.;)
 
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i think the big stack correctly flat called to make Perkins shove some hands he would fold if the big stack shoved. Perkins must not have been aware of this at the time
 
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If short stack was on btn and he is shoving like 12bb and sb flat calls that, i think AJ is many times ahead of their range and if we are reshoving this spot we have to just beat small blind to make our play profitable. But if we think this spot on icm, we could fold, because payjumps are allways huge in this stage, but Perkins is a rich businessman and i think he is only playing for victory in these tournaments.;)
icm goes two ways he was trying to put pressure on the big stack and is likely ahead of a 12BB shoving range without knowing dynamics but a lot more goes into this kind of spot (even from a bad player in a super high roller) then "someone may have me beat here" that is really weak logic please people all of you think in terms of ranges. If he assumes (idk if it is correct or not bc i don't know the dynamics) that the SB is calling wide and folding down to like JJ+ AK then it is perfectly fine for him to shove
 
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