Early play in rebuy period

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I have been playing poker several years both live and online, with that said I still consider myself a beginner fish,.
In an MTT with rebuys what is the best statagy in the beginning,? I tend to play tight despite the ability to rebuy, but I seem to come up against hyper agressive players that are pusahing with any 2 cards. I hear the saying scared money doesn't win. I seem to do okay but what is the consensus? Loose agressive until rebuy period over or steady tight play with the occasional move when in position?
What say you
 
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when playing a rebuy i will plan on 1 rebuy and the add on, that makes a 5.50 rebuy a 15.50 buy in. it depends on the way table is playing as to whether i rebuy at the beginning or wait til its needed.
ill play tight at the start and watch for the any 2 cards guy and try to stack him if the opportunity presents itself.
as the rebuy period ends i will watch for the desperate short stacks as they try to increase their stack through all ins with mediocre cards.
i almost always take the add on as any body who is going to make it deep will also take it and why give them any advantage?
after the addon i will play tighter and wait until things settle down a little and start to get better reads and play as its a normal tournament.
im sure others play different but this work well enough for me.
 
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I think it's mostly about reads. Finding those who are frustrated and are going in on any two cards. I play at really low levels so I assume it's different at high levels, but you can get big stacked pretty quick in the micro buy-in tournaments, especially when you can pick up reads on who are the calling stations and the hyper aggro to the point of stupidity players, and then stack up against them.

And I always add-on. I don't always rebuy, if I get knocked out in the first few levels I'll rebuy, otherwise I generally will move on if I'm buying in with an 8x bb stack.
 
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When I play an MTT, I would love to be able to tag someone in for me. I make chips often and early.. Usually in the top 10 by the end of late registration. Then I get beat up and bluffed, and sucked out on. I often wonder what the difference is if it is me or this happens to everyone. Just have to keep picking my spots and hoping for the best.
 
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I choose loose aggressive until rebuy period is over.

That game is a "money gets money" strategy.
 
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Be aggressive against constant raiser even with some marginal hands.
 
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I play calling station style against hyperaggressive. This means I call preflop raises with significantly wider range than usual and then I reevaluate on the flop. The thing is, that you have basically no folding equity. This means that you should only reraise if you are sure of your hand.
 
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Rebuys promote bad play so I simply don't play rebuys.
 
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Rebuys promote bad play so I simply don't play rebuys.

Bad play is exactly why I like rebuys. If you can't win when people are playing at their worst (and micro stakes rebuys are the definition of that paradigm) how are you ever going to beat good players?

I tend to play my normal TAG game in rebuys although I will look for spots where I can double up on the push/fold early guys or the desperate short stacks pushing light. Since my range is much tighter I don't mind shipping in with AK knowing that I am often going to be against a small pair or worse ace.
 
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As a beginner-level player, you're probably better off to avoid rebuys. It's not like there aren't plenty of freezeouts you can play where you don't have to be concerned about the additional strategy elements that exist when rebuys and addons are available. I suspect you have enough to think about in freezeouts so why add more?
 
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Early on, playing super tight until the field thins out a bit seems to work well for me.. unless everyone else is too, in which case you can often steal blinds. Limp when you can- cheap flops are always good. And early on, are much more affordable. Small ball is a great method, and not just early in tournaments. Moving all in early on preflop generally hasn't worked great for me personally, even with aces
 
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Hello! When I play tournaments with re-buys, buy chips from the start of the game! This gives the advantage early in the game and the ability to put pressure on the opponent. In these tournaments, I try not to make the addon, and to accumulate enough chips before the beginning of the period add-on! The exception is when the addon is 4-5 times more rebuy! As a player with little experience should start to play tournaments without rebuys
 
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I will say go tight and let the others pump the pricepol with severel rebuys.

Every time you make a rebuy the tournament costs you more money and even a good payed place might still mean lost money.

Go for the any two card players when you got the hand to it and build you stack on other players rebuys.

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when playing a rebuy i will plan on 1 rebuy and the add on, that makes a 5.50 rebuy a 15.50 buy in. it depends on the way table is playing as to whether i rebuy at the beginning or wait til its needed.
ill play tight at the start and watch for the any 2 cards guy and try to stack him if the opportunity presents itself.
as the rebuy period ends i will watch for the desperate short stacks as they try to increase their stack through all ins with mediocre cards.
i almost always take the add on as any body who is going to make it deep will also take it and why give them any advantage?
after the addon i will play tighter and wait until things settle down a little and start to get better reads and play as its a normal tournament.
im sure others play different but this work well enough for me.
this is good advice I'll agree with basically all of this.

Rebuys promote bad play so I simply don't play rebuys.
This is exactly the reason TO play rebuys. more bad players = higher +EV for good players. Also, you can sometimes get into a nice table situation where 1 or 2 guys is just constantly rebuying and getting it in with mediocre hands. So you just wait for a time when you can beat top pair/ok kicker and you double up. I can't count the number of times in a rebuy I've bought in for the minimum $5 and then ended up with a $20 stack before the end of the rebuy period....and the guy who actually spent the $20 is sitting with a $5 stack. Once you build a nice stack during the rebuy period it is time to stop gambling. Let the donks double eachother up and build the prizepool for you. Wait for the rebuys to be over and then resume playing it like a "normal" tourney except now you've got good chips and you paid a fraction of the price that most players paid.

I will say go tight and let the others pump the pricepol with severel rebuys.

Every time you make a rebuy the tournament costs you more money and even a good payed place might still mean lost money.

Go for the any two card players when you got the hand to it and build you stack on other players rebuys.

Smart ay

I sort of agree with this. You don't have to be super tight during the rebuy period...if you're at the kind of table where people are going all in at the drop of a hat then just getting it in with what is likely to be the best made hand and hoping to hold up is an OK strategy. Definitely agree with the part about letting the other players pump up the prize pool.
 
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I will tend to see many hands in the early go and at the cheap levels I dont do donkey but I will play a marginal hand or better than make a decision on the flop once I accumulate chips I will play a bit tighter to save the chips for the non re buy round The second round I play tight asertive and the third round I Play tight however due to the blinds it will force you to play more marginal hands that what you would normally do you also have to read the players
 
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I don't like rebuys just for the loose play at the beginning of tourneys. The ones that I have played in, I play very tight but push hard with premium hands. Works sometimes, but then you might get 2-3 loose calls and it becomes a crap shoot.

I know the cash is good, but you have to have a good bankroll and not playing premium cards aggressively will not get you very far. Just my opinion of course.

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I use to be aggressive and loose in the earl phases of a MTT . So I get respect on the table and can collect chips that I will neeed later in the tournament-
good luck on and off the felts
 
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Personally i love rebuys for the exact same reason miss jacki spoke of.Even a lot of good players (especially those with big bankrolls) give away their chips so easily that i can sometimes build a huge stack before the add on .And if i have built up to say the top 5 ill just save the extra money and not even add on.Of course this doesnt happen every time (wish it did ) . Only time i hate rebuys is when i get sucked out on 5 times in 30 minutes lol.
 
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another reason to love rebuys is lower rake.

for a $5.00 + 0.50 rake you are actually playing in the equivalent of a $10 or $15 tourney for the same rake as a $5 tourney.
 
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I think that the problem should not rebuy Appears in the game do not need to re-buy obraschyat attention because is can distract from the Memory Games
 
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As other said loose aggressive until rebuys are over and after that put your hair down and wait for a hand to play.
 
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Thanks to all of you I appreciate the input
 
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By the way can sombody please explain Fold Equity? Thanks
 
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By the way can sombody please explain Fold Equity? Thanks

Equity in general means your percentage of the chips you would win, on average.

Fold equity is the chips you win the percentage of time that your opponent just folds.

You have zero fold equity whenever you call. You can only have fold equity by making a bet.

Example:

an opponent with pocket 4s raises to 1000. You go all in with AK for a total of 3,500 (or 2,500 more). The blinds fold leaving their 600 in the pot. If he calls AK has 45% equity vs 44. So you'd stand to win 4,100 45% of the time or $1,875. And 55% of the time you'll lose the entire $3,500 you put in so -$1,925 making the play as a whole a loser by -$50. So, on the surface pushing with AK right here is a losing play.

But wait, there's more. As the person pushing all in you have at least SOME fold equity. It's not an exact science, but you have to figure that some % of the time he will fold to your bet. Take a guess. I'd guess that 25% of the time he'll fold.

that means, 25% of the time you'll just outright win the $1,600 in the pot. So your fold equity is $400 (1,600 x 0.25). If you thought he would fold 10% of the time, then your fold equity would be $160. If you thought he'd fold 50% of the time then your fold equity would be $800.

So, you add the fold equity to your regular equity to find out the profitability of the move as a whole. In this example, if we think he'll fold 25% of the time to our shove, then shoving with AK there is $400-$50 for a total profit of $350. Basically, with fold equity on your side a lot of borderline decisions become +EV.

That is why, in general pushing all in is better than calling all in in almost all cases.
 
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be very agro + u can take a lot of money , because at start of tournament fish players are giving us many chips, and loosing few chips doesn't matter much for us
 
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