Early blind levels when fish have position on you

PokerNuts01

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I'd like some advice if there are certain hand types you would avoid opening with sticky fish on your left....they'll be calling a shit ton pre and post, that type....lets say you are the Hi-Jack and you have 2 fish on your left, or maybe the co and there is a loosey goosey on your left.

-would you cut down on sc'ers/gappers like J9s, 98s etc...?
-Suited Ax?
-Maybe baby pockets? Blah, prolly not, huge implied odds if we hit, but low FE when we miss??? dunno.
-How about High card hands, would you start expanding down to like K8o, A7o etc...since a high card is good against them? (Assuming blinds are fishy too and you don't think you'll be 3-bet much)

-Thanks!!!
 
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I generally like to play the fish all the way to the river betting on all streets.
There too much luck involved if you get the all the money in preflop in a cash game
 
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I agree that, There can be much luck involved if you get the all the money in preflop in a cash game
 
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I personally would stick to playing hands in the top 5 percent and never go all in pre-flop unless you have AA.
 
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I would avoid the cards like J9 or 98 and A5 or A9... but i would shove AK AQ.
And also avoid 22 33... but i would call with 88 99 1010...
 
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I like disqused cards like suited gappers because a fish cannot see the potential combinations on the board. And also I like hands like Axs or even Kxs and actually all the cards you had mentioned.[when 25+ bbs and in LP]

With hands like TT+ i opend and if he 3bets I 4bet shove. They somehow overvalue the small Aces!!

If i don't hit hard the flop I make a 1/3 cbet and see how he responds and I re-evaluate the situation in the future streets. If I hit the board most of the times I jam the turn or the river and I get paid ofc!!!
 
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With hands like TT+ i opend and if he 3bets I 4bet shove. They somehow overvalue the small Aces!!
Agree 100% :D
They call shove with A3o,A6o.. again and again and again :cool:
 
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It's hard to open a hand range on fish. You want to extract the most money. Stick with ABC poker until you got it nailed down. Then slowly add your marginal hands. It's all in the post flop play.
 
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I generally like to play the fish all the way to the river betting on all streets.
There too much luck involved if you get the all the money in preflop in a cash game
James_Moria said:
I agree that, There can be much luck involved if you get the all the money in preflop in a cash game

Alright guys, now tell me please: Where have you seen Early blind levels at cash games? :D

@PokerNuts01, honestly rather not. I do prefer playing more conservative, when the blinds are low. Maybe limping with any pairs, suited connectors, suited Ace rag and so on. (But mostly when players behind me rather passive and i wouldnt get raise most of time) With all of such hands i want just to see flop cheap and being happy if i hit the monster, or hit monster draw and could see for free or cheap enough how it will improve. If all that circumstances are not about to happen. I fold my hand without long thinking about. But raising such hands, that you listed and being called by a fish, who just want to play and could have anytwo. You building up the pot and these in a pretty marginal situation on postflop, where you could find yourself with a tricky hand, that hits a piece of flop maybe even in a multipot (because blinds are cheap, so fish has no respect to your raise) without position and you have no idea what are those fishes could have behind you. Why do you need hard decisions and risks so early?
I made this mistake myself already so many times (and probably will do it over and over again lol) and even with a really good hands, you shouldn't overvalue it on early phase of tournament. Many times happened to me something like when i had AK and raised preflop, got called by 2-3 fishes behind, hitted an ace or king on flop, and lost my stack to a fish who just called funky J5s and hit two pairs on flop, or a flush draw and get the flush on a river. Well of course AK is worth to play aggressive, but why to put yourself in such situations with weak hands too.
 
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damn this is sharks threads,talking how to destroy my people.. lmao
 
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