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“Double or Nothing” Sit N Go Strategy on PokerStars:

You're playing in a Turbo “Double or Nothing” Sit n Go on PokerStars. 10 players will start with 5 of them doubling-up and 5 getting nothing. Example, you “buy-in” with $10 and when you place at least 1-5, you will be paid $20 (Double up). However, if you place 6-10, you get nothing! The starting stacks are 1,500 and relatively quick blind structure... the blinds are increasing rather fast (turbo).

What's your overall Sit N Go strategy here?

A) Play way tighter than normal. B) Play normal tournament poker.
C) Play looser than everybody else, after all, the blinds are in “turbo” mode so you must double up fast and have a lot of chips to survive

My answer is "A". This is one of the easiest BR builders available...great payoff for the little risk involved. Should take about 25 to 35 minutes. Probably should not have to play more than 6-8 hands to win.
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Pretty much. Play tight, accumulate chips in a safe manner, and squeek into last place. No points for having more chips than the next guy when the tourney finishes.
 
NineLions

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Like this? Just tried one to kill time;

pokerstars Game #37876754188: Tournament #230213607, $1.00+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/01/08 22:52:26 PT [2010/01/09 1:52:26 ET]
Table '230213607 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Knober1 (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: jdawgs49ers (1520 in chips)
Seat 3: j-c fuente (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: pimpa-rafa (1810 in chips)
Seat 5: Tartan27 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: TheQueenB#1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: DEB98513 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Ninelions (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: KYLLER88 (1260 in chips)
Seat 10: Spendalo (1500 in chips)
pimpa-rafa: posts small blind 10
Tartan27: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ninelions [Qd Qh]
jdawgs49ers said, "nh"
TheQueenB#1: calls 20
DEB98513: calls 20
Ninelions: raises 80 to 100
KYLLER88: folds
Spendalo: folds
Knober1: folds
jdawgs49ers: calls 100
j-c fuente: folds
pimpa-rafa: folds
Tartan27: calls 80
TheQueenB#1: folds
DEB98513: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 8h 7c]
Tartan27: checks
Ninelions: bets 200
jdawgs49ers: raises 400 to 600
Tartan27: folds
Ninelions: raises 800 to 1400 and is all-in
jdawgs49ers: calls 800
*** TURN *** [2h 8h 7c] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [2h 8h 7c 8s] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ninelions: shows [Qd Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
jdawgs49ers: shows [2c 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
jdawgs49ers collected 3150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3150 | Rake 0
Board [2h 8h 7c 8s Ah]
Seat 1: Knober1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jdawgs49ers showed [2c 8c] and won (3150) with a full house, Eights full of Deuces
Seat 3: j-c fuente (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pimpa-rafa (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Tartan27 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: TheQueenB#1 folded before Flop
Seat 7: DEB98513 folded before Flop
Seat 8: Ninelions showed [Qd Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 9: KYLLER88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Spendalo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

:)
 
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Problem is if everyone is playing tight this thing will come down to who gets the best hand when the blinds are high. I'd rather play a little looser if everyone is tight and steal as much as I could. Just make sure I show down a few winners and don't overextend myself on the bluffs.
 
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Or this. Try number two. I guess I don't have the concept down.

PokerStars Game #37877749911: Tournament #230215285, $1.00+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2010/01/08 23:44:03 PT [2010/01/09 2:44:03 ET]
Table '230215285 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: UknowUrDead (4150 in chips)
Seat 2: w8ing2u (1920 in chips)
Seat 3: 0paris (2185 in chips)
Seat 4: Ninelions (2760 in chips)
Seat 6: richieportoo (1965 in chips)
Seat 10: Ms.CattyCat (2020 in chips)
UknowUrDead: posts the ante 15
w8ing2u: posts the ante 15
0paris: posts the ante 15
Ninelions: posts the ante 15
richieportoo: posts the ante 15
Ms.CattyCat: posts the ante 15
0paris: posts small blind 75
Ninelions: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ninelions [Kh Ah]
richieportoo: folds
Ms.CattyCat: raises 350 to 500
UknowUrDead: folds
w8ing2u: folds
0paris: folds
Ninelions: raises 2245 to 2745 and is all-in
Ms.CattyCat: calls 1505 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (740) returned to Ninelions
*** FLOP *** [Js 7c Ts]
*** TURN *** [Js 7c Ts] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 7c Ts 6d] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ninelions: shows [Kh Ah] (high card Ace)
Ms.CattyCat: shows [Ks Jh] (a pair of Jacks)
Ms.CattyCat collected 4175 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4175 | Rake 0
Board [Js 7c Ts 6d 4c]
Seat 1: UknowUrDead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: w8ing2u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 0paris (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Ninelions (big blind) showed [Kh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: richieportoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Ms.CattyCat showed [Ks Jh] and won (4175) with a pair of Jacks
 
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Problem is if everyone is playing tight this thing will come down to who has the best shove/call ranges when the blinds are high. I'd rather play a little looser if everyone is tight and steal as much as I could. Just make sure I show down a few winners and don't overextend myself on the bluffs.

fyp

Also, none of the regs will be looking at what you show down, and bluffing is very -EV. Stealing from the nit tight regs is definitely profitable though.
 
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Lool NineLions is just running into coolers... 82... well no one said your tablemates were smart.
 
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I have 'won' these before by folding every hand. However, I find these tend to come down to one hand - it may be the first or the 50th, but there will be one defining hand. An early double up and you can pretty much sit out, but more often you'll be down to 6 or 7 with a shortish stack and biggish blinds. This is where you need to pick your spot to steal blinds. Unless I get a hand I'd like anyone to call, I take a shot at the middle stacks - if they are in 3rd or 4th place they often don't want to get involved. In general, I don't much mind if that defining hand is early or late - it's going to come and I'll need some luck with it.
 
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I have 'won' these before by folding every hand. However, I find these tend to come down to one hand - it may be the first or the 50th, but there will be one defining hand. An early double up and you can pretty much sit out, but more often you'll be down to 6 or 7 with a shortish stack and biggish blinds. This is where you need to pick your spot to steal blinds. Unless I get a hand I'd like anyone to call, I take a shot at the middle stacks - if they are in 3rd or 4th place they often don't want to get involved. In general, I don't much mind if that defining hand is early or late - it's going to come and I'll need some luck with it.

The more and more of these that I play, the more I am beginning to pick up as far as overall strategy to play a complete game so that it doesn't simply "come down to one defining hand".

The entire game is all about position, and using your position as leverage against your opponents. In the early stages when everyones stack is equal, how you play your blinds is going to be the most important part of your game. If you allow the SB to limp in the pot with no other players involved, you are making a mistake. It is the correct play to bump it with a raise with ATC when you are involved with only the SB, as you will most often take the blind and move on to the next hand. You want to make sure you are making it around the blinds, so when you do have a hand you can get max value out of it.

Mid and late stages are all about attacking the blinds with your position, preferably when you have an above marginal holding.

Hope this helps.
 
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I have been playing these at playersonly for a while and have found that you just need to wait it out. Unless you have the nuts, stay out of the pots. Some players still don't get it that 1st and 5th pay the same. Use that to your advantage. I believe my win percent to be about 60%. Definately ahead.
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You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to play the turbo's.

Well there you go. I didn't even know they had turbo versions of these.

After last night I'm 0 -2. They must be rigged.
 
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So out of 10 players, 1-5 pay double the money? This is at Stars? I gotta get over there!!
 
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I always play tight.... and normal when i chipleader))))
 
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yeh play tight aggressive!! Untilyour around 4000-5000 After field gets smaller everyone plays EXTREMELY TIGHT. I normally sit out if im chip leaderwith 1 or 2 players o go because you dotn want to double anyone up. Also if yoru down with 2 players to go this is where yoru aggression plays into key because you can easily steal blinds because small stakcs are just tyring to hold on to make themoney
 
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