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The loss on the bubble can be different. You can become aggressive because of the loss of time and effort. Or you can take it easy and learn from the situation. In any case, staying one step away from the prize zone will be quite an unpleasant moment. Do you feel like a loser leaving on a bubble ?
Not really. For sure it sucks, especially if I had a decent stack but ran into some kind of set-up like QQ vs. AK and lost. But I play at least 200 MTTs every month, so I dont have time to get upset about the outcome of individual ones.
Well, you are by definition a loser if you bust the tournament on the bubble, whether you feel like one or not. I'm just being a bit facetious, as I imagine you meant something more figurative. Nonetheless, busting on the bubble is never fun, but it doesn't make you a "loser."
Fundiver and Perry both make good points--the bubble is essentially a line drawn in the sand arbitrarily in terms of how it relates to your play style. If you have been playing well, get a premium hand that you can't really fold even on the bubble, and you get coolered, it's simply bad timing and certainly doesn't make you a "loser." As to what Perry said, that often applies to me when I bust on the bubble. If I find myself with a short stack (e.g., 10 BB) and a premium hand (AKo+, AQs+), I'm happy to get it all in on the bubble and to be called because I am shooting for final tables more often than simply getting in the money. Because most of the money gets paid to the final table, it rarely makes sense to me to play just to get in the money.
I think the main rule is to start playing earlier, in order to feel confident when there is one step left to the money. You have to be completely off when the fate of money is being decided. So as not to feel stupid, I think there's only one AA hand that you can't throw away, everything else is better left out. A bubble is not a place to risk or pressure players with a large or equal stack against you. If you're feeling insecure, it's better to start early and fly out than to sit and wait until the end and fly out on a bubble...
If I am playing a hand on the bubble, then I am playing to win. That said, it depends on the cards. You get cards you want to play and they are going to win you the game or lose it. It happens, it is poker. You can skate through the line with some decisions. I have jumped my chip count up after the bubble many times. That does not mean I do not want to play the cards. So, no, you should not feel bad for losing on the bubble.
re: Poker & Do you feel like a loser leaving on a bubble ?
I'm definitely nervous and extremely upset for a while, I personally prefer not to play for a few more minutes, meaning not to open new tournaments, I only play if I still have tables, I try to calm down and then re-register for new tournaments, for that I'm starting to get extremely aggressive
I don't think the term "loser" is appropriate in this case as you were only one place away from achieving a cash price so it's a bit harsh to use that terminology. all the times that i have finished on the bubble or near the bubble I have felt angry and frustrated for the reason that you have mentioned but not like a loser considering how close I was to win a cash price.
never feel like it makes me a loser since it is only one spot from the money.
but definitely disappointing for about five minutes depending on how the last hand ran out.
all good players let things go very quick
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It certainly used to bother me if I busted a tournament right near/on the bubble but not anymore.
As has already been mentioned in this thread - if you're playing to win and not to simply cash then it won't bother you at all because a min cash isn't the aim. Granted, a min cash is nice but the real money is higher up so I wouldn't wanna play way too tight getting near to the bubble and then leave myself with a stack which is unlikely to give me a chance at making a deep run.
I certainly won't play quite as many marginal hands near the bubble as I may do otherwise but I'm not changing how I play the majority of hands.
If anything, the bubble can be good as it means you can put certain pressure on other players who will want to make the money. You get to handcuff them, essentially.
The only time your play SHOULD change on/near the bubble is in a satellite. Because of the fact that the top x amount of players are all getting exactly the same prize, you may need to play a lot tighter at that point. I've done it before where my stack in a satellite will guarantee me a ticket/seat so I will fold 100% of hands, even AA although I don't like folding it lol
re: Poker & Do you feel like a loser leaving on a bubble ?
I use to. not no more, since you have to learn from your mistakes. I wont compromise all my chips on the bubble preflop unless I have AA so if I do go all in AA and lose then I got unlucky and I accept it.
No, for me leaving on a bubble is one more point to think - what I did wrong this time. Probably I should push early and have a chance for that? Or I loose part of my stack when I can fold early or on preflop? In most cases - I can find answer - what I can do here or there to avoid this situation.
Of course, you can face with bad beat on bubble or just before it and loose most of your stack. It can happen, but if you play according your bankroll - it's not a problem for you. Today I have interesting tournament - for 1.5+ hours I have VPIP 4, because I get really small amount of playable hands, and a lot of players on my table time-to time played in Push-fold style.. But I don't think that it's only variance - now I found few hands where I can play, but for some reason folded preflop. Next time I will try to fix it and play better)