Do we want a 3-way ai pre w/ AA?

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Backstory:

Blinds 300/600/60
Stack size: approx 25 bbs
Somewhat into a 5$ rebuy (after add-on) and I'm in the hijack w/ AA. . One limper from early position. At this point I've had a a decent run of cards so I kno my image is somewhat lag cause I haven't had to showdown yet. I raise to 1575. The CO flats. folds to BB who 4 bets putting me ai. original limp folds....

This is where my question comes in. The CO I'm convinced thought I was a loose idiot cause I had taken 2 previous pots off him otr (1 bluff). So maybe it was a d*** move, but I ran some clock to look like I had a hard decision basically trying to bring the CO in. I got what I wanted and the CO's A10s hit a flush knocking me out. So I guess I have two questions.

  1. Am I an ass for slowrolling?
  2. Do we want a 3way ai pre w/ AA?
 
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Sounds like you're just frustrated because he sucked out, but from a pot odds point of view it's never wrong to get all-in with AA pre under any circumstances, since you have the best equity in the table. (There are certain tournament conditions where calling with AA is wrong, but this is certainly not one of them).
 
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Not mad at all. 10+ tournies/day I dont have time to get pissed about a bad board w/ AA ai pre.

And I kno it obv the right call. I'm asking if instigating a 3rd player to calling the ai is profitable or if I should just snap off and make my hand strength obvious.
 
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Of course you want called by the CO.
Do you really think tanking got you a call?CO could be muti tabling,watching tv,watching porn,eating,insert W/E and playing when screen poped up on his turn.
You don't have to insta call but no need to slowroll call either.
 
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he was pretty upset with me. I thought the tank would help. Only way to explain calling a 3way ai for 30 bbs with A10s
 
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O don't get me wrong **** the CO if he gets upset are not,lol.Just seems to be wasting every ones (including your self) time.
 
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dont super snap but dont waste much of your time bank
 
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O don't get me wrong **** the CO if he gets upset are not,lol.Just seems to be wasting every ones (including your self) time.

your definitely right. it wasn't much of a waste i only took like 15-20 secs but obv still a slowroll with aces
 
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Its only a slow roll if you close the action mate, tanking with people behind to act is totally fine
 
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Totally legit strategy and YES you want 3-way action with AA.
 
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I dont care what anyone says, I would take AA in a 9 way all in. Its the best hand in poker! if you went all in on a 9 way pot with AA you would have a 16% chance to win the hand, while everyone else, no matter what they had would have an average of about 10% to win the hand. Even though 16% is not very good, you have to look at it compared to the other percentages, and it still dominates, even if everyone was playing the high end and some guy goes all in with suited 43 and has a 14.5% chance because everyone has paint, and obviously that leaves more small cards in the deck, but your 16% chance still has them beat.

Now it is true that the fewer amount of people in the hands, your odds of winning the hand do get better, but my point is that no matter how many people are in the hand you still have a mathematical advantage. Omaha is obviously different.
 
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Yes, you are an ass for slow rolling it.;)

And normally I would prefer a HU when jamming with my AA, I will seldom (aka NEVER) not join the fray when there are more than a single villain in the hand. If we assume that 80% of the time AA will beat any other hand, then with each additional player, our winning odds decrease 20% (not exactly, I don't have the formula), but at 3 hands vs AA it gets near break even.
 
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Geez, I reaaaaaallly hate it when I can get action on my all in while holding the nuts!
 
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Yes, you are an ass for slow rolling it.;)
Maybe you're missing the point? He 'slow-called' in hopes of having 3rd player call the ai. Was it necessary to time bank? Probably not (I'd actually think it'd be too obvious... but you never know, many don't think).
And normally I would prefer a HU when jamming with my AA, I will seldom (aka NEVER) not join the fray when there are more than a single villain in the hand. If we assume that 80% of the time AA will beat any other hand, then with each additional player, our winning odds decrease 20% (not exactly, I don't have the formula), but at 3 hands vs AA it gets near break even.
That's great but he's calling, not 'jamming'.
Your numbers are wrong. It'd only be 60% in a 3-way if you were in vs. worst possible scenario (ie. vs JTs & med-low SC's.. like 65s). Vs. typical hands in a spot like this, AA 3-way would more likely be 70-75% fav.
 
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rly? Am I just the one who doesn't even care how many people are in the pot when people are putting me all in with aces?
 
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probably, barring significant ICM considerations I'm pumped about it
 
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show-me-the-money.jpg


:call:"HELLO....HELLO.....SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!"

"Oh...darn. I'm sorry sir."

"B..BU...BUT...M..M..MY PHONE...":bawling:
 
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That's great but he's calling, not 'jamming'.
Your numbers are wrong. It'd only be 60% in a 3-way if you were in vs. worst possible scenario (ie. vs JTs & med-low SC's.. like 65s). Vs. typical hands in a spot like this, AA 3-way would more likely be 70-75% fav.

not 3 way according to what I said...3 hands vs AA = 4 way....close to break even.

and notice the smiley????
 
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LOL srsly? You win half the time yes, but you win 2 stacks not just one so it's not break even lmao
 
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