Do we always have to take this spot?

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Do we always have to take this spot or is folding fine? I'm not worried about him having a better FD then me but know I'll be up against a lot of Ax maybe even some Qx and think a lot of the time we are flipping at best.

pokerstars - 300/600 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 8 players

CO: 14.85 BB (VPIP: 16.36, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, hands: 56)
BTN: 6.86 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (SB): 25.58 BB
BB: 16.4 BB (VPIP: 23.21, PFR: 3.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
UTG: 41.99 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
UTG+1: 51.07 BB (VPIP: 42.42, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 33)
MP: 33.72 BB (VPIP: 18.87, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 53)
MP+1: 15.47 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 9)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has 8h 9h

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 7c Qh Ah
Hero checks, CO bets 12.72 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

CO wins 8 BB
 
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Personally, I think folding is fine. Your flush only gets there 1/3 and as you mentioned there are bigger flush draws out there as well as Ax & Qx which would mean hitting a pair is no good.

Looks like you're about average, or just under, so IMO not necessary to risk almost all of your stack in this spot.
 
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U need to fold when he shoves,he is doing it with 2 players after him he's got Ax, wait for a better spot.
 
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I would also fold there.
If you have a flush AND a straight draw, I sometimes call.
 
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Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 7c Qh Ah
Hero checks, CO bets 12.72 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

this is a common situation for someone who playing with Ax excluding opponents opportunity to collect a flush combination. at the same time it is normal to fold your hand with a weak flush draw
 
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