do less people at the table change what hands are premium?

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Ok I have been doing great since joining this site but now that Im making final tables the number of people change and I need to know do the hands I play change. Do premium hands change ? Is J10 or 89s now a good hand since there are less people at the table or do I stick with what got me there? I also need this advise for playing 6 handed vs. 9 or 10 handed. Thanks in advance.:confused:
 
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Premium hands won't change, but what hand you play should change.

I assume you are playing full table (9-10 seats). Lets use 9 seat tables for reference.

UTG at the full table has 8 players to act after, at a shorter table (6 seats maybe) there will be fewer opportunities for players to catch a hand good enough to challenge a 1st position raise.

Since an early raise represents some sort of good hand in all forms of the game, all players wanting to react to that opening raise will need to have a pretty decent hand themselves. The fewer the potential player who can react translates to the opportunity to open weaker in each position.

As the table dwindles to 5,4,3 players the importance of opening 'light' becomes more pronounced as the opportunity to steal the pot increases. Since so few off our hands are decent, that 'first in vigorish' will oftern take the pot.

This also opens up the opportunity for re-stealing (re-raising) and if a player has the image of the thief, the occasional re-steal should be fairly effective.

By the time the table has reduced to HU, any pair, Ax hand or SC's become prime hands to play, with unsuited connectors following closely behind. It is that 'first in vigorish' that is the key as often as not.

Simple answer is yes, the definition of premium hands shifts down the hand chart.

Keep in mind the thief will know he is stealing, he will know you know he is stealing, and he will be sensitive about what you re-stealing means. Even noobs can see the obvious.
 
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So does any pp become a re-raise or push senario when we're down to 5 players? I must admit I hate small pp (2-9) and especially (2-5). Ive seen books telling me Ill win 70% of the time with a pp but dam if it doesnt feel like Im getting beat 70% of the time with them.
 
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So does any pp become a re-raise or push senario when we're down to 5 players? I must admit I hate small pp (2-9) and especially (2-5). Ive seen books telling me Ill win 70% of the time with a pp but dam if it doesnt feel like Im getting beat 70% of the time with them.

At 5 handed, I personally seldom will play 22-33-44-55 hands unless I am first to act, then a good healthy raise will usually dim action from the rest of the table. These are fairly easy to get away from if resistance is encountered. 66-TT are the iffy hands. We know we have a decent shot at being ahead preflop, but also understand that we can get drawn out on easily.

JJ+ I will tend to play more agro pre. JJ I shove, qq I might get fancy and just call with (1/2 the time or so). KK, AA I could just as soon slow play trap as get overly agro.

So small pocket pairs want either a tight table, or position or both, and they need to be first to act. If your table is not tight, or a single player is deemed loose, a re-raise with small PP's is not unwarranted, but beware.
 
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small PP's dangerous but playable, mainly dependant on position. Of course you could just go set mining as well, assuming that if you hit you can stack someone off getting 20 to 1 odds to make the flat call.

Flatting can also look strong simply because people do tend to play QQ/KK/AA slower......
 
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The basic rule of thumb I have always followed is when the table gets short, big cards go up in value and suited connectors/small pairs decrease in value.
 
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The basic rule of thumb I have always followed is when the table gets short, big cards go up in value and suited connectors/small pairs decrease in value.

How does the value of big cards/SCs/pairs change when it is raining outside?
 
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How does the value of big cards/SCs/pairs change when it is raining outside?

The value to the player, not the absolute hand value. QJs looks alot better shorthanded than 33, although each hand has about the same equity vs a random hand.
 
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