Do I Jam turn like I did or Check this back??

C

Clrrr

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Sep 27, 2016
Total posts
6
Chips
0
Villian Loose semi aggressive, I put him on AX, maybe even Kx here, Don´t remember his VPIP here but I think he was around 45-49ish and 25pfr. Just wondering if I should have played this different I felt he was maybe calling A x and didn´t want to give him a free card on the turn.

I jammed praying he didn´t hit the J on the turn which is usually pretty unlikely. So maybe I get called by worse with his loose fishyness and I think most of the time he doesn´t have the Jack. Anyway that´s how I saw it at the time. Feedback is cool. Thanks


Looking back maybe could even fold preflop. I thought about it at the time. That probably would have been the best play, at these limits I feel If I just play premiums and position I have a lot of success.

poker stars $3.19+$0.31 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds + t10 - 7 players - View hand 2961642
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: t2621 M = 13.79
BTN: t4032 M = 21.22
SB: t2342 M = 12.33
BB: t1294 M = 6.81
Hero (UTG): t2875 M = 15.13
UTG+1: t821 M = 4.32
MP: t1363 M = 7.17

Pre Flop: (t190) Hero is UTG with 7 :diamond: 7 :heart:
Hero raises to t170, 4 folds, SB calls t130, 1 fold

Flop: (t490) 3 :club: 5 :diamond: 3 :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t490, SB calls t490

Turn: (t1470) J :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1680, SB calls t1672 all in

River: (t4814) 4 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)
 
Jim Brown

Jim Brown

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Oct 16, 2015
Total posts
128
Chips
0
I would checkback the turn. It's a way ahead or way behind situation. I agree the J doesn't hit his range very often, but I don't see getting much value from worse. I think it's better to evaluate/bluffcatch in position the on the river.
 
C

Clrrr

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Sep 27, 2016
Total posts
6
Chips
0
I would checkback the turn. It's a way ahead or way behind situation. I agree the J doesn't hit his range very often, but I don't see getting much value from worse. I think it's better to evaluate/bluffcatch in position the on the river.
Thanks man.
 
C

Clrrr

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Sep 27, 2016
Total posts
6
Chips
0
He check called with A J off snap called turn
 
D

Dan Lucas

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 18, 2016
Total posts
475
Chips
0
I am not sure you did anything wrong here. You made a decision based on what information you had. If you put him on overpair or pocket 5's or A 3 then you made a bad move. But you put him on overs with no jack. Just because the result was bad, doesn't make your decision incorrect unless in your gut you felt like he had you, and made the move anyway hoping to hit the boat on the river. Sometimes, we make the wrong read and get punished. Just don't get too caught up in results. even donks sometimes have a hand.
 
C

Clrrr

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Sep 27, 2016
Total posts
6
Chips
0
I am not sure you did anything wrong here. You made a decision based on what information you had. If you put him on overpair or pocket 5's or A 3 then you made a bad move. But you put him on overs with no jack. Just because the result was bad, doesn't make your decision incorrect unless in your gut you felt like he had you, and made the move anyway hoping to hit the boat on the river. Sometimes, we make the wrong read and get punished. Just don't get too caught up in results. even donks sometimes have a hand.

Thanks Man. Mtt life is a hard life.
 
widron2s

widron2s

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 30, 2012
Total posts
161
Chips
0
You check back the turn. Even if you put him on Ax or Kx there's a huge possibility it will be KJ or AJ.
 
Erpherk

Erpherk

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 28, 2016
Total posts
330
Chips
0
i would have done same thing or checked turn and jam if he bet =/ rip.
 
atlantafalcons0

atlantafalcons0

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 4, 2010
Total posts
3,713
Awards
1
Chips
4
Smallish preflop raise which is ok I think.

Flop bet bloated the pot, bet 2/3.

Check back turn as others have stated and reevaluate on the river to bluff catch.
 
Mrmercurial1

Mrmercurial1

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 5, 2014
Total posts
32
Chips
0
tough spot

From my point of view i think that he called with qj,kj, or AJ. He probably put you on a bluff and he called the CB , and when the turn hit, he took advantage of it. Happens often on pksrs . think that if you moved all in on the flop, it would have been the same situation , if he was playing like a fish. :(
 
C

chronical

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 15, 2014
Total posts
1,128
Awards
1
Chips
1
1. i don like raise sizing for small parin in UTG. either do play 77 from Utg or raise 3.5bb+
2. and I think you are too agro 3 last streets =)

with small raise PRF you are letting him see to much flop with to many hands that can beat you. Post flop he (and here I dont know how much of a station he is) he is calling big bets, so he is either holding strong pair or J.
it would be good to know can he be puliing some wierd dro for 3 streets or no. Knwoing is PRF play gives you only half of the picture.
You bet pot size on the flop and he calls. This is were basicaly you hand unravels.

Generally speaking I think I would play the same, unless I know that he is calling that pot size flop bet with a hood hand hand, because then I would not bet the turn
 
B

brrrddz

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
May 12, 2016
Total posts
41
Chips
0
u can check the turn for pot control and because...u wait that he will call u with worse hands? if yes, then yes u can shove for value. and from his image and his stats u describe, maybe he could call u with something worse. Also with your shove u protect your hand from a river would change the balances.
Anyway u can take 2 lines...check turn or shove turn, depends from what u believe for your opponent and his range.
 
atlantafalcons0

atlantafalcons0

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 4, 2010
Total posts
3,713
Awards
1
Chips
4
u can check the turn for pot control and because...u wait that he will call u with worse hands? if yes, then yes u can shove for value. and from his image and his stats u describe, maybe he could call u with something worse. Also with your shove u protect your hand from a river would change the balances.
Anyway u can take 2 lines...check turn or shove turn, depends from what u believe for your opponent and his range.

What range of hands would call his shove on the turn, that he beats, for value?
 
Top