deepstack torney 40bb squeeze

what are your thoughts on squeezing in this situation.
we have been quite card dead for some time
we have a tough table
blinds are 150/300 50 ante

MD position player (17k stack ) who is mega fishy but experienced player and very rarely folds to 3bets , opens for 800 , new player (26k stack ) who just sat down flats on BTN ,on the BTN (12k stack )we wake up with AKo . Now if we 3bet to say 2.5-3k and fish calls + BTN calls we will be playing OOP in a 9k pot , so is it better to sqeeze. 40 BB seems like quite a lot but I think this is a preety good spot , what do you guys think , also do you think our hand is face up AK or can villain put us on anything else.

squeezing

any squeeze is a good squeeze if you are observant, forcings opponents to come up with a top 10 hand in order to call

I think you are a little deep to go all in here and what hands will you get a call from that you are dominating? I think AQ is probably folding so that leaves the pairs against you. Tournament chips are valuable so picking up 7 or so bbs is pretty decent.

Dead money in pot is already over 10% of our stack and if we don't jam someone might rejam behind us.

I squeeze all in and pray.

Aleksei said:

Dead money in pot is already over 10% of our stack and if we don't jam someone might rejam behind us.

I squeeze all in and pray.

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Sorry made mistake in post we are actually in the BB so we close the action .

inflnlte said:

I think you are a little deep to go all in here and what hands will you get a call from that you are dominating? I think AQ is probably folding so that leaves the pairs against you. Tournament chips are valuable so picking up 7 or so bbs is pretty decent.

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We are not looking for a call here we are looking to sweep up the dead money in the pot while applying maximum pressure to do so. realistically our oponents need top 3% hands to call this. with AA and KK being unlikely in the range , AK unlikely , really we are looking at QQ , who can confidently call and even if he calls with QQ hes a very small favourite.

kanselau said:

Sorry made mistake in post we are actually in the BB so we close the action .

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I still squeeze. We have blockers and there's a good chance if anyone had KK/AA they'd have 3bet or jammed, so statistically if someone calls it'll nearly always be with QQ, AK and maybe JJ. Postflop we'll have missed 2/3 of the time and be in worse shape as we have little improvement equity of someone hit.

Pretty standard to shove there but you aren't getting called very often by a inferior hand. But as you mentioned, you were looking to take it down preflop and accomplished that goal.. Myself I would have 3 bet it up and played them postflop if they called.

JaguarJT said:

Pretty standard to shove there but you aren't getting called very often by a inferior hand. But as you mentioned, you were looking to take it down preflop and accomplished that goal.. Myself I would have 3 bet it up and played them postflop if they called.

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I got called by 66 the problem with 3 bet is that if our opponent shoves on us we are put under pressure , if he just calls we are playing in a big pot out of position and if we miss the flop it goes pretty much ,check /bet /fold

If your opponent shoves, you can still call. Opponents can have AQ, AJ and you dominate them. If they have your hand dominated, well shoving wouldve had the same result. Im interested on what hands you would shove 40bb in this same situation?

3 bet it to deep to just rip and we never really get called by worse or allow them to get in worse. We also need to balance our 3 betting range, in retrospect the call with 66s is kinda easy/marginal since you wouldn't do this with a value hand. In this spot I imagine you and some of the posts above 3 bet AA,KK,QQ? If our 3 betting range is so narrow then that allows our opponents to play correctly against us. If he is calling a lot let us keep in his ax we dominate by 3 betting for value and stacking him on the flop learn to play better post flop if you don't enjoy 3 bet pots.

GNARBURGS said:

3 bet it to deep to just rip and we never really get called by worse or allow them to get in worse. We also need to balance our 3 betting range, in retrospect the call with 66s is kinda easy/marginal since you wouldn't do this with a value hand. In this spot I imagine you and some of the posts above 3 bet AA,KK,QQ? If our 3 betting range is so narrow then that allows our opponents to play correctly against us. If he is calling a lot let us keep in his ax we dominate by 3 betting for value and stacking him on the flop learn to play better post flop if you don't enjoy 3 bet pots.

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I don't mind playing in a 3bet pot , when stacks are deeper .
Against this particular villain, I think im jamming with 10+, AQ+, AK, and getting called by worse hands a lot of the time.


Please tell me how you play this hand post flop OOP .
Say we 3bet to 2000 both opponents call ( pot is 6650 ) we have 10k left in our stack . Flop comes Q 10 3 rainbow , we are first to act ?

Assuming all 3 peel, then I cbet like 1/3ish and expect to barrel high a frequency. We should be c-betting that board every time. We are plenty deep to be playing in a 3 bet pot.

I am not saying to 3 bet every single time there is merit to flatting AKo etc.

That said I don't think we should be just ripping AKo 40bb deep unless we plan to do it with our entire 3 bet cram 40bb range if that is a thing.