Deep stack open jam, what is the weakest hand you call with?

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Hey everyone.
Recently there seems to be a new play. People open jam AA deep stacked when the blinds are smaller. It is most profitable. But what is the weakest hand you call with to a open jam? Only aces? Here's a example i had to fold tens with. No information about vilian. Weakes hand you call with there?

http://www.boomplayer.com/nl/poker-hands/Boom/11795723_932C4BBFF9
 
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You need to have history on the jammer. If he have done this with small pocket pairs or just with premium hands. In a vacuum, I will call with AA, KK and AK. If I have him covered, I would add QQ, JJ and AQ.

Calling with TT or 99 will depend on my stack size relative to the blinds and villains stack. If we are both deep, most of the time I'll fold them.
 
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Depends how much info you have on the person. If he's a nut jamming every other hand and showing now marginals, I'd put my rage at AJ+ 88+ for calling, if you assume the shover is doing so tighter, a calling range of JJ+(closer to QQ) and AK+ is best.
 
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On account of the little information you have on the villain AA KK and AK probably the only hands I would call in the situation.
 
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AA or KK only. Why take a chance on your tournament life with a $11 buyin when he could have less but he could have AA KK also.
Definitely not AK which is more than likely nothing more than a coin flip.
 
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Well I certainly fold there. I'm not calling 100bb's with TT but how is that profitable? If he has AA then he made a whopping 1.5bb's, If he has 22 then he risked his whole stack for 1.5bb's. That's a horrible play. Watch him, find out what it means and exploit him. I'm probably calling with Queens.
 
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I would call with QQ+, depending on how bigstack we are I am.
 
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I definitely wouldn't call with AK - he may well have AA or KK putting you in bad shape. You don't have any chips in the pot and your stack is not yet under pressure from the blinds.

Without any read on the player there's no need to put 50BB at risk - you've got plenty of time to figure out how he got his 100BB stack and then try and exploit him.

I fold everything JJ and lower and I probably QQ and maybe even KK. Last time I called with KK in a similar spot villain of course had AA leaving me second guessing myself - I had a strong feeling that AA was in the guy's range for this (ridiculous) move but I called anyway (regular SNG - 3rd or 4th level) - which I think was a mistake.

If villain keeps doing it then call wider. With wild players you often get a good opportunity if you're patient.
 
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Well I think it depends on how deep you are, but I would call with QQ, KK, AA and maybe AKs. It also depends on any information I could have of the villian that pushes all in, and also on the buy in. In the lowest buy in tournaments, there are weak players, and you should not fear that he will have AA most of the times
 
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I would definitely need info on the jammer but I would think at best we are in a coin flip there. Folding was the correct move. I am calling QQ-AA and AK there.
 
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Aces Kings and Queens only - I would fold AK AQ 10 10 JJ and all worse hands. It is pretty much like a golf tournament - you can't win the tourney on the 1st day, you can only lose it. I see a lot of players truly play in a vacuum and never lay down the best hand in tourneys. Obv you don't want to do it often but there is really no reason to call any all ins early on preflop but the top 3 hands and even QQ is a risk if you are good enough to accumulate a lot of chips without ever being all in. If you have your opponent covered by a wide margin and want to gamble - good luck to you, otherwise let them feel this play is something they want to try later on with mid pairs and KQ and then snap them off
 
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deep, readless, with no tourney equity info, my guess is QQ

just so hard to say without more info
 
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I've also asked this question to a online poker pro and he told me to only call with aces. Unless you have notes on the guy that he is a fish then call QQ+ and AK. No notes or if he's a reg KK is a snap fold
 
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I would definitely need info on the jammer but I would think at best we are in a coin flip there. Folding was the correct move. I am calling QQ-AA and AK there.
I agree with this response, a coin flip at best. I am not a fan of calling too many coinflips in a tournament, esp for tournament life. Then again, Im not very good. I also fold AK a lot more than others, I think its big time overrated... Hope this helps some
 
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If I have no info I'm probably only calling q's+. And maybe folding the queens. Who wants to get busted during the early levels right? Yesterday I raise Ak UTG and the hijack shoves and I fold. He showed Ak. It was early in the tournament and I felt I had a lot more to loose than gain considering I'm behind almost every hand that I'd consider jam worthy at this point.
 
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I would call with only AA & KK. Depends on the opponent I would add QQ and AK to my calling range. There's no point in risking all your chip stack for a flip in early stage of a tournament.
 
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Online poker without info on player I would do QQ+
 
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VERY villain dependent! I've seen and learned the hard way at times. If the tourney is $8.80 or more to buy in then I wouldn't recommend calling with QQ.

In the lower buy ins you see alot of open jams very early stages with 55+ A9+, but generally i only ever see AIPF early stages of $8.80+ with AA involved.
 
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Hey everyone.
Recently there seems to be a new play. People open jam AA deep stacked when the blinds are smaller. It is most profitable. But what is the weakest hand you call with to a open jam? Only aces? Here's a example i had to fold tens with. No information about vilian. Weakes hand you call with there?

http://www.boomplayer.com/nl/poker-hands/Boom/11795723_932C4BBFF9
Depends on the stack but weakest hand i would call that jam is 88. I think you have made a good fold.
 
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i would call with KK+.
open jamming with AA it's not profitable at all if deep stacked in the long run.
 
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