Continuation bet

Andymac37

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I see a lot of ppl folding the best hand because the person who originally done a 3bet with say AK flop come J94 and the AK c bets ppl fold. If yous miss the flop will you lead out with a bet or check? The reason I ask is If I hit a flop with top pair or something I will always check to induce some action sometimes I think a c.bet can look week. What do yous think ?
 
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I see a lot of ppl folding the best hand because the person who originally done a 3bet with say AK flop come J94 and the AK c bets ppl fold. If yous miss the flop will you lead out with a bet or check? The reason I ask is If I hit a flop with top pair or something I will always check to induce some action sometimes I think a c.bet can look week. What do yous think ?

I think they are calling that a "range bet" now because you will be doing it with practically all of your 3-bet range, but its still basically a c-bet. The idea is you will be doing it with your premiums as well and even though you will get raised out of the pots at times, other times you will simply get called and have a chance to improve on later streets, and if you make it to showdown cheap Ace high will still be good sometimes.


But you are right if you spot somebody c-betting all the time you have a licence to raise them with second best hands.


C-betting has a whole philosophy and mathematical approach to it now a days. The Grinders Manual has good material on it for the online poker player that's relevant and up to date if you ever want to check it out
 
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Depends on position and other player types.
If you are OOP and check, that's like you are saying: "Sorry, I miss the flop this time!"
I check OOP if there are some CS after me and if they raise -I fold.
I cbet if there are some NITs after me and if they reraise me - I fold.

That's why I don't like playing AK OOP.
Usually I fold or showe, depending on stack.
 
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Your position and stack will determine your new action! Watch out for c-bet because it could disrupt the turn and river.
 
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Depends on the type of opponents, their number, place at the table, ...
 
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The continuation bet also means defending your start or not to show your opponent free cards .... have to be careful with projects that are formed on the flop that also depends on your continuation bet if someone linked a good hand flop usually you'll make a checkraise very careful with that :dancing2:
 
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Continuous betting is a good game, regardless of whether you hit the flop or not. You have to make sure that the flop turned out to be good for the villain. There are no other ways to test this except how to make it put money.
 
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I always check raise bluff c-bets. If a better hand won't fold or a worse hand won't call don't bet.
 
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How about you if you have an under pair on an "overs" board? Is it a rule of thumb to continuous bet everytime in that situation?
 
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Cbet is a profitable move against weak players. There are still lot of them. I would check-raise with really good hands.
 
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Depends on how tight the players are. When people are raising and re raising like crazy, I think you are just throwing your money away with a c bet if you didn't hit the flop against multiple players.
 
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How about you if you have an under pair on an "overs" board? Is it a rule of thumb to continuous bet everytime in that situation?

Sometimes I c.bet if I have bottom or middle pair to protect the hand a d get some value from the drawing hands but ppl who 3bet then c bet all the time that's what I mean by looking weak. They can't have it everytime. Can they? But u do know by the time u notice this pattern and check raise them is the time they do have the nuts lolol usual
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i guess knowing when to c-bet is one of the skills to being profitable, not to mention this is the basis of other advanced plays like 2 or 3 barrel.
i've seen people who c-bet 100% of time which is clearly means they don't c-bet only when they hit the flop. if you have a broadway, pocket pair, or suited conector, you hit the flop 33% of the time. if you add the times when you c-bet with your overpair, the percentage increases a bit so i guess they c-bet more than 50% with air, which means you can try to take the pot away from them.
i wonder if this play is profitable though, for me seems a bit overextended to c0bet that much.
 
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What you gave us is a very small snapshot in time. It is important to keep an eye on people and make mental notes or actual physical notes about how they normally behave. It is usually easy to pick out someone that always C-bets but you also need to decipher what kind of player they are before just assuming they always C-bet. Playing a lot of freerolls has gotten me pretty lose and I'll c-bet most times but if I'm in for some dough and trying to make some money I would be careful and do like you said and check raise if the opponent is assuming weakness from my check.
 
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It depends on stack, position and the number of remaining players. In different situations different behaviour in the game.
 
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Depends on how tight the players are. When people are raising and re raising like crazy, I think you are just throwing your money away with a c bet if you didn't hit the flop against multiple players.
A c-bet will fail more times when the c-bet is from an opponent who has been overly active.

I consider myself a tight player and that is the image I portray at the table, which enables my C-bets to mean something, even at times when I do C-bet with air I usually get folds, even in multi-way pots.


If you don't make a habit of C-betting regularly, you give up all the dead money in the pot.
You have to remember, your opponent will miss the board as many times as you, but if you don't C-bet, you will never know.


When you C-bet, you will have opponents folding more times than they call, enough that it makes c-betting worth it. You just have to know when to C-bet based on opponents.



Onto a question relating to C-bets: What % of the time should I C-bet the flop(I'm currently C-betting around 60%) and how much success should I have with the flop C-bet(currently around 46% success)?
 
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