Collusions in Double or Nothing sng?

Undoubtedly Double or Nothing is a game format that have the lowest variances in poker.The possibility to become profitable in this game in the long run are good depending on your skill and sample size.

The only downside of Double or Nothing is you are exposed to collusion,where maybe a bunch of some players sitting at the same table colluding against you i.e chipdumping,soft-play or etc..

Did you ever had this experience and how you overcome it?





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yes it was a sattelite and all at once a heap of players joined, all from the same region and all playing very similarly. it was a really weird experience, i reported it to pokerstars, they responded and said they looked into it but nothing was wrong. But it was almost certainly collusion or some form of bot software, it was a multitable sattelite, not a don though.

Man i remember back in the day when full tilt was still available in the united states all the collusion i used to see, people who were clearly chipdumping and communicating with each other outside of the software. Its a really shitty feeling playing agaisnt someone with that kind of an advantage!

chip dumping in a DON is silly - if one loses and the other wins they are losing money to the rake...so whats the point

unless its a three way - then dump half the money to one and half to the other - easy to spot and may get caught on collusion software (depending on the site) - but this is still no guarantee either of the two will cash - if two fail and one wins now the team is WAY behind....just doesnt seem worth it

Now, will people collude at SNG's - sure, will they in DON, yea maybe - but as card sharing players, not chip dumpers, and this is still a risk because that in no way guarantees you will profit.

I think most of the colluders are in regular sngs, which again makes DONs perfect I love them but they are not easily played in USA - back in the day on Cake I made $2k just on DONS alone when they first came out

Colluding is normal when you get down to 6 players. But that's were the cheating colluders help eachother out to by folding to a short stack or raise folding. Colluding early would be hard to do.

Dons are probably the most succesfull form of collusion since bubble play is important and usually end up being the longest bubble of any tournament format.

Gump877 said:

Dons are probably the most succesfull form of collusion since bubble play is important and usually end up being the longest bubble of any tournament format.

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soft colluding with other big stacks at the table is a whole different story, this is not pre-meditated cheating, its unspoken smart game play. These people typically are not telling each other their cards and what not, they are just 'avoiding' each other and focusing on smaller stacks to get out - this happens in all tourneys

longest bubble of any tourney format is a stretch, unless you are saying for sngs - then maybe, mtts bubbles can last forever since they are usually hand for hand

Yea, I know colluding is a strat in these, that's why i put cheating colluders in the second sentence. It's pretty common for the game to stretch another 2-5 levels after down to 6 people, on average probably 1-2 levels. Guess I didn't mean time on the bubble but hands dealt and levels.

joe777 said:

Undoubtedly Double or Nothing is a game format that have the lowest variances in poker.The possibility to become profitable in this game in the long run are good depending on your skill and sample size.

The only downside of Double or Nothing is you are exposed to collusion,where maybe a bunch of some players sitting at the same table colluding against you i.e chipdumping,soft-play or etc..

Did you ever had this experience and how you overcome it?





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How do I know this? I think the average player learn about the collusion is not possible

How can you prove any collusiom goes on in these games. I doubt even the sites can prove anything if every player is using different i.p addresses

it seems as people who are suspected of collusion can play tournaments from 45 people

i think that collusion in don is possible but not common

Gump877 said:

Yea, I know colluding is a strat in these, that's why i put cheating colluders in the second sentence. It's pretty common for the game to stretch another 2-5 levels after down to 6 people, on average probably 1-2 levels. Guess I didn't mean time on the bubble but hands dealt and levels.

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gotcha and agree

easy don't play the sng at that site. and tell customer support names and your reason for leaving the site.