For my CC friends - a little gem.

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Yesterday, with thanks to a buddy, I found a little money making machine. The 70FFP 10-man winner takes all turbo SNG's found on pokerstars are absolutely beautiful if your in the buisness of making money.
The play is awful (see HH below) and the prize is a nice $11.
Thats a pretty good return. If you win one in five (very easily done) that gives $11 per 450FPP which = 2.5c per FPP (unless my calculation is wrong).

General strategy is like a SNG. Play super tight in the first rounds, but generally make your calling range a bit wider. Once your on the 3rd or 4th level you know who's shoving what range. The donks are obvious. Call them a lot wider. Remember it's all calculated using cEV so get it in ahead and you can't go wrong.

First hand:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (10 handed)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
UTG+2 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (MP3) (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Hero's M: 50.00

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, 2
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t199, UTG+2 raises to t1500 (All-In), MP1 calls t1500 (All-In), MP2 calls t1500 (All-In), 5 folds, UTG+1 calls t1301 (All-In)

Flop: (t6030) 9, 6, 4 (4 players, 4 all-in)

Turn: (t6030) 2 (4 players, 4 all-in)

River: (t6030) 10 (4 players, 4 all-in)

Total pot: t6030

Results:
UTG+1 had A, A (one pair, Aces).
UTG+2 had 2, 7 (one pair, twos).
MP1 had 10, Q (one pair, tens).
MP2 had J, K (high card, King).
Outcome: UTG+1 won t6030

IMO this is a great use of FPP's (the less people that read this the better... we don't want the standard being high)
 
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yes I have noticed that anytime bad players are playing with fpp's it's more like a freeroll , they don't really care about losing them .
but either you don't like us Americans or you meant to say " for my non u s CC friends " :p
 
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Is this the sunday storm sat?
 
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I prefer the 210fpp top6 pd. of 20 entrants. I personally can't stomach any of the 'winner-take-all' sattys' (< feels like bingo) just my preference.
 
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I prefer the 210fpp top6 pd. of 20 entrants. I personally can't stomach any of the 'winner-take-all' sattys' (< feels like bingo) just my preference.

I played 2 of these last night and this is exactly how I felt about it. Everyone at the table (except me) where going all-in constantly. I got to the final three (the blinds had not increased yet) in the second game by simply folding every hand and the big stack who had 9000+ chips was simply shoving every hand. It wasnt very enjoyable.
 
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I prefer the 210fpp top6 pd. of 20 entrants. I personally can't stomach any of the 'winner-take-all' sattys' (< feels like bingo) just my preference.

Yeah this is also another option. I haven't tried the 210 FPP satty yet but hopefully the standard is as soft as the SNG's.
As for the winner takes all aspect of the game.. it does increase variance massively due to people play crap heads up and shoving a huge range with like 40BB... but it's pretty easy to get to heads up like every other time so if you win 1/2 your heads up thats a 1/5 winning ratio.

Anyhow, may try the 210FPP tournies in the future to get an idea of the standard of play.

And yes its the sunday storm satty. Trade the T$ for real dinero in the future when PS allows the trade system to work again.
 
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