Cashing a Final table

darkassassin89

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Ok usually when you can hit a final table, it is a nice big boost for the bank roll, more times than not.

Now I play more cashgames now days and I play the tourenys when I want a break from the grind. And to take shots of course for a big win.

Now Say you make a final table and actually cash top 9.

Do you move up your limit playing a higher limit right away? ( hopeing you are well rolled for it now)
Or do you keep grinding the limit you did grind? Of course we all want to move up, but Should you move up in the tourney only? OR is it ok to move up in you cash game as well?

Thoughts?
 
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Oh wow - I'm going to cop out with it being a personal decision. If the only thing keeping you from moving up is your bankroll then by all means move up.

But if you know your game needs to evolve more before moving up then take that and maybe invest in some coaching or training.
 
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Thats solid advice. Coachin should most Def bring anyone a +EV boost.
 
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You don't need to pay for coaching when so much advice is available for free online. You should move up in cash games when you are comfortably and consistently beating that level of cash games, not because of your tournament winnings.
 
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You don't need to pay for coaching when so much advice is available for free online. You should move up in cash games when you are comfortably and consistently beating that level of cash games, not because of your tournament winnings.

Well, say if I do cash a big tourney, and move up to a limit that I have no experience in... Do i focus on getting full hands on experience and just jump right in? Or still grind my old limit and move up 1 step at a time?
 
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it doesnt matter can you even beat any limit of any cash game or tourney?
 
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I am beating 4NL on carbon at the moment. Slowly but i am not negative :) And tourneys I manage to run deep but not to a final table cash yet.

I asked this because a friend of mine cashed 4th in a tourney but jumped REALLY high limits (25/50NL) and was still horrably our of his roll... But he thought he could play the limit because he had some "extra money" now lol
 
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how many hands are you beating 4nl over? sorry but all i ever see from you is bad beat posts and generally you butcher every hand you post..
 
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Haha well My HEM is acting up :( and also Merge is not saving all my hand historys :( :( so i sent support a messege about this.

But I think i can show my cash game chart.

It went down fast at the beginning but this was before I knew what I was doing... now, I have a solid game plan, but need to work on it more.
 
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You don't need to pay for coaching when so much advice is available for free online. You should move up in cash games when you are comfortably and consistently beating that level of cash games, not because of your tournament winnings.

There is no substitute for having a coach sit across the table from you for a few hours and afterwards totally dress down your game with you.
 
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Final Table Profits should be reinvested in your game imo.
Continue to take shots and move up when your ready/good enough/prepared not because of a single Final Table Score.
Reinvest - as in a business .....
 
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Well, I recognize the situation.
Just started I won about $ 9300 (2nd in a 55 rebuy).
Hey, I must be good, played higher stakes and lost it all.
A year later, 4th in a 55 buy-in for $ 6800.
Didn't learn my lesson well and lost it again, playing to high stakes.
What I would do now with a cash like that, is stick to my stakes and play satties for the higher BI-tournaments.
If I could afford good coaching right now, I would go for that too.
 
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Coaching is a good option but you can get lots of material online. but like mediaBLITZ says, there is no substitute for a coach that can break down your game for you. MANY people use online materials, but still don't break down their game and really look at how they play and say 'hey, I want to get better at this', but a coach will do this for you. You need to be perfectly honest with yourself and getting a coach that can be 100% honest and, if necessary, be quite blunt with you, can be quite beneficial, as long as you want to put your time in.

But to answer your question, do not move up. Beat your stake with a few k hands of proof and then think about moving up. Don't lie to yourself like I did in the past, it can be quite detrimental to your BR and you'll be kicking yourself afterwards.
 
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Brings up a good point - be sure you know the role of your coach (and of course that he knows as well). There a bunch of guys out there who think they are going to teach you poker and call themselves coaches. All they are doing is regurgitating books and videos. I just finished a session with a guy who would just parrot Ed Miller - hod no interest in hearing from me or how I might play. So how the hell does he know what needs fixin?
IMO I thibnk the first thing a good coach (a real coach) is gong to do is say, "Let's see what you got..." Or start asking questions. I am fortunate to have a midstakes player who will take the time to sweat me and isn't worried about if I get my feelings hurt. He is solely responsib;e for cleaning up a handful of tells I had and other things that make me more difficult to read than before.
I would not get a coach to inherent general and public information, but get one who is specific to what you are doing. Ohterwise I am in total agreement with F4STFORW4RD - do your own reading and studying (not the role of a coach).
 
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There's a difference between moving up and taking an occasional shot when doing so won't materially affect your BRM strategy. .
 
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