Originally Posted by jamesdadeliverer
Why do people lie to themselves? If you are cashing in 3/5 of tourneys you are either cheating or looking at an extremely tiny sample size.
Nobody has an ITM percentage over 25% in a standard payout structure. According to OPR you have an ITM of 11%, which is pretty good and you have shown a profit. But it's just ridiculous to say you have a 60% ITM.
If anyone has an ITM% of over 30%, please direct me to their OPR page.
How about 35% ?? ... see below, or check for yourself.
But there are always situations and reasons that can and do alter results.
Originally Posted by LizzyJ
The best MTT players are around 15% ITM. Winning MTT's are around 2-3% range. Some people go years without winning an MTT, afterall your playing with 2500+ people! For a pro playing single table SnG's you can expect a 35% ITM. This is with a sample size of about 500 games.
I have won several forum FR's, but those don't show in OPR .... just in my BR balances ... ... I'm one that has NOT 'won' a Stars buy-in game, but I'm not at all unhappy with my 35% ITM ... One day the cards will fall right and I'll be right there to cash in ...
Stats are and can be deceiving. No set of rules applies to all players. I play cash tables (stud) and various MTT's. I never intended to make a profit online, but maintaining about a $300 BR over 4 sites is not bad (imo) while NEVER making a deposit on ANY online poker site
. I do have greater win rates in cash games, but then I limit my rings to stud games since that's my preferred game and I've played it live since '69. (I BETTER be good at it ... )
Since I live in Nevada, I have the advantage of playing live anytime I want and I save my cash for live games. Why deposit and fight the often moronic situations online when I can always make $$$ playing live ?
Originally Posted by dufferdevon
This is what a good MTT micro grinder's stats should look like, if I do say so myself. There is no way anyone cashes in 3/5 tounries, let alone SNGs.
Excellent example and great result !! Duffer is right ... the 3/5 or 60% claims are bogus ... or would have to be with ridiculously small samples. Duffer plays a wider range of games than I do with my avg fields being ~2,500 while his is ~1,500. I typically have 1,000 more players to survive than Duffer. I never play anything less than the 180+ MTT's. He also has about 4x the number of games played this year than I do.
The point is, there ARE players who can make ITM at better than a 20% rate, but it's few ... and it sure isn't as frequently or as EZ as some write about ...