Cardschat Freeroll Hand Analyses - (Lots of hands, Very Basic stuff))

DaReKa

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I don't really play any tourneys, so although I was pleased with my play today, I had a lot of places where I wasn't sure if I was making wise plays, and I wanted to post a few spots where I had questions and get a general critique.

Hand 1
Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10.00/t20.00 Blinds - 9 players

UTG+2: t2470.00 123.50 BBs
MP1: t2224.00 111.20 BBs
Hero (MP2): t2440.00 122 BBs
CO: t2020.00 101 BBs
BTN: t2540.00 127 BBs
SB: t2296.00 114.80 BBs
BB: t3093.00 154.65 BBs
UTG: t2370.00 118.50 BBs
UTG+1: t3047.00 152.35 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP2 with A K
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t70.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to t210.00, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls t140

Flop: (t450) 7 3 T (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t450) 4 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets t225.00, Hero calls t225

River: (t900) 2 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: t900
UTG+2 shows Qs Ah
Hero shows Ac Kd (Ace High)
Hero wins t900.00
Should I be cbetting here? I felt pretty uncomfortable getting too aggressive post flop with my limited number of chips and zero knowledge of villains. Other than that my thinking was that he probably missed the flop and my hand is best, and if he did hit it I have overcards, so I called.

Hand 2
Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10.00/t20.00 Blinds - 9 players


UTG+2: t2500.00 125 BBs
MP1: t2490.00 124.50 BBs
Hero (MP2): t2470.00 123.50 BBs
CO: t2110.00 105.50 BBs
BTN: t2470.00 123.50 BBs
SB: t2310.00 115.50 BBs
BB: t2890.00 144.50 BBs
UTG: t2500.00 125 BBs
UTG+1: t2760.00 138 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP2 with J K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t70.00, 7 folds
I think this was probably way too nitty. Villain was fairly loose, but not enough hands to be sure of anything. Do you like call or 3bet better? Is fold terrible? I was trying to play very tight/safe early on, since all villains were unknown.

Hand 3

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15.00/t30.00 Blinds - 9 players

CO: t1990.00 66.33 BBs
BTN: t2374.00 79.13 BBs
Hero (SB): t2875.00 95.83 BBs
BB: t2020.00 67.33 BBs
UTG: t2510.00 83.67 BBs
UTG+1: t2323.00 77.43 BBs
UTG+2: t3028.00 100.93 BBs
MP1: t2490.00 83 BBs
MP2: t2890.00 96.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is SB with 7 K
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (t120) 5 J A (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t80.00, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t360) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks

River: (t360) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets t360.00, BB folds, MP2 calls t360

Final Pot: t1080
Hero shows 7c Kc (Flush Ace High)
MP2 mucks Js 9s
Hero wins t1080.00
Here I didn't want to raise multiway, because I couldn't stand a reraise, and didn't want to get it in here with a draw, so I check/called to evaluate the action. Should I lead turn? I didn't think I would fold out anything that I wasn't beating.

Hand 4

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30.00/t60.00 Blinds - 8 players


BTN: t3826.00 63.77 BBs
SB: t1509.00 25.15 BBs
Hero (BB): t5785.00 96.42 BBs
UTG: t2570.00 42.83 BBs
UTG+1: t1562.00 26.03 BBs
MP1: t5641.00 94.02 BBs
MP2: t1737.00 28.95 BBs
CO: t3648.00 60.80 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BB with J 2
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t60, 5 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t150) 8 A 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t75.00, Hero raises to t225.00, UTG+1 calls t150

Turn: (t600) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t300.00, UTG+1 folds

Final Pot: t600
Hero mucks Jh 2h
Hero wins t300
Hero wins t300.00
Here I felt like he didn't have anything strong, as it was a limped pot, so I played aggressively to hopefully fold out most of his hands. Played correctly?

Hand 5

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100.00/t200.00 Blinds - 7 players

UTG+1: t1861.00 9.30 BBs
MP: t5291.00 26.45 BBs
Hero (CO): t6560.00 32.80 BBs
BTN: t2727.00 13.63 BBs
SB: t2662.00 13.31 BBs
BB: t8282.00 41.41 BBs
UTG: t6390.00 31.95 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is CO with A 9
3 folds, Hero raises to t400.00, 1 fold, SB raises to t2662 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t2262

Flop: (t5524) 6 3 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t5524) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t5524) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t5524
Hero shows Ac 9c
SB shows Ah 7c (Pair of Sevens)
SB wins t5524.00
Villain seemed to be shoving a large range - I snap called. Winning would put me close to the chip lead. I thought it was a good spot to try and get a "bully" stack. It seems like a pretty marginal spot though, not sure if I should wait for better as I was already sitting on a pretty good stack.

Hand 6

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125.00/t250.00 Blinds + t25.00 - 9 players

BTN: t3514.00 M = 5.86
SB: t5794.00 M = 9.66
BB: t1583.00 M = 2.64
Hero (UTG): t4973.00 M = 8.29
UTG+1: t7764.00 M = 12.94
UTG+2: t5350.00 M = 8.92
MP1: t1200.00 M = 2
MP2: t2739.00 M = 4.57
CO: t4260.00 M = 7.10

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is UTG with A Q
Hero raises to t500.00, 8 folds

Final Pot: t850
Hero mucks Ah Qh
Hero wins t600
Hero wins t250.00
Shortly after the previous hand, was concerned with being low M, and was looking for spots to double up or steal blinds. I ended up getting a respectable stack again through blind stealing. Should I shove here? I figured I would be flipping for a double up a lot of the time when called (if I shoved). The only reason I didn't is because I had improved my stack with several steals since the previous hand already, and felt like I was in pretty good shape and could consider folding to a shove. Good? Terrible?

Hand 7
Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds + t50.00 - 9 players


MP2: t8011.00 M = 7.63
CO: t12141.00 M = 11.56
Hero (BTN): t5982.00 M = 5.70
SB: t5114.00 M = 4.87
BB: t3968.00 M = 3.78
UTG: t4244.00 M = 4.04
UTG+1: t16716.00 M = 15.92
UTG+2: t6631.00 M = 6.32
MP1: t10376.00 M = 9.88

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is BTN with 5 5
6 folds, Hero raises to t5932 all in, 1 fold, BB calls t3518 all in

Flop: (t8486) A 4 A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t8486) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t8486) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t8486
Hero shows 5h 5d (Two Pair Aces and Fives)
BB shows 9s 9d (Two Pair Aces and Nines)
BB wins t8486.00
I'm 90% sure this is completely standard. I read the definition of M in a post on here a while back, but I don't know shoving ranges based on it. I just knew my stack was very few M and had been for a while.

Hand 8

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds + t50.00 - 9 players

UTG+2: t7911.00 M = 7.53
MP1: t12041.00 M = 11.47
Hero (MP2): t1964.00 M = 1.87
CO: t4814.00 M = 4.58
BTN: t9286.00 M = 8.84
SB: t3744.00 M = 3.57
BB: t16616.00 M = 15.82
UTG: t6531.00 M = 6.22
UTG+1: t10276.00 M = 9.79

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is MP2 with K 6
4 folds, Hero raises to t1914 all in, 3 folds, BB calls t1514

Flop: (t4478) 3 7 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t4478) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t4478) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t4478
Hero shows Kh 6d
BB shows 6s Qs (Flush Queen High)
BB wins t4478.00
This was right after the previous hand. Again, pretty sure this is standard, but I don't really know the shoving ranges. K high good or wait for A high?


So all pretty basic stuff. Anyone know where a shove chart relating to M can be found? I looked for one during tourney but couldn't find one that made sense to me. I found one for 9 max SnG, but I think it was for turbos.

Another thing I was never sure of throughout the tourney was bet sizing. Any quick and easy guide for that?


Guess I'll add this to get opinions.

Worst hand of the tourney

Merge Network Cardschat $100 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30.00/t60.00 Blinds - 8 players

CO: t3916.00 65.27 BBs
BTN: t2124.00 35.40 BBs
Hero (SB): t5755.00 95.92 BBs
BB: t2165.00 36.08 BBs
UTG: t2392.00 39.87 BBs
UTG+1: t4856.00 80.93 BBs
MP1: t2427.00 40.45 BBs
MP2: t2643.00 44.05 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is SB with Q:diamond: A:heart:
2 folds, MP1 raises to t135.00, 3 folds, Hero calls t105, 1 fold

Flop: (t330) 5:heart: J:club: 3:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t165.00, Hero calls t165

Turn: (t660) A:club: (2 players)
Hero bets t400.00, MP1 raises to t2127 all in, Hero calls t1727

River: (t4914) T:club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t4914
Hero shows Qd Ah (Pair of Aces)
MP1 shows As Qh (Pair of Aces)
Hero wins t2457.00
MP1 wins t2457.00
I think I need to snap fold here. I still don't have a great feel for tournaments and what hands are shoving here, but what exactly am I beating? I gotta be way behind most of the time, right? But I dunno.. 1.7k to win 3.2k. What do you guys think? (Now that I've thought about it more I actually think calling isn't that bad. I guess I'm ahead of unpaired single clubs, and A9-AT, behind AJ and AK, with AJ less likely due to the small cbet. His range might be even wider than A9 too. Hard to know with the little info I have. So I guess the call was OK. Still could have been played better.)

How should I have played it differently?
 
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Were any of these vs me? :D
Haha, nah, you were Loose Aggressive, but I was playing very tight at that stage, and we didn't have a single hand played vs each other. You're Aretino right? I was the loose passive on your HUD :p
 
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Yeah I remember. :p

But my HUD didn't peg you as loose-passive, it pegged you as tight-passive.
 
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Hand 1
Should I be cbetting here? I felt pretty uncomfortable getting too aggressive post flop with my limited number of chips and zero knowledge of villains. Other than that my thinking was that he probably missed the flop and my hand is best, and if he did hit it I have overcards, so I called.
Dude, you have 120+ BBs, this is as good a time as any to splash around a bit and get some reads. Plus this flop is actually very good for cbets, because it's a low coordinated board that looks scary and will miss a TAG's flat 3bet range often. Usually a flop bet will take it down, but if the turn completes anything (including of course your own hand :D) feel free to barrel it.


Hand 2
I think this was probably way too nitty. Villain was fairly loose, but not enough hands to be sure of anything. Do you like call or 3bet better? Is fold terrible? I was trying to play very tight/safe early on, since all villains were unknown.
Your had a suited Broadway so you could flat IP to speculate. Just mine for a flush and let Villain value-town himself.

Hand 3

Here I didn't want to raise multiway, because I couldn't stand a reraise, and didn't want to get it in here with a draw, so I check/called to evaluate the action. Should I lead turn? I didn't think I would fold out anything that I wasn't beating.
You played this well. You have great implied odds to draw throughout both streets because it's multiway, so just peel down. Raising a multiway flop without the nuts is insanity.

Hand 4

Here I felt like he didn't have anything strong, as it was a limped pot, so I played aggressively to hopefully fold out most of his hands. Played correctly?
I love this hand. Raising and then firing the brick turn in a limped pot looks like A4 or a low set or whatever so that FDs and pairs find it REALLY hard to continue; plus you have outs when your villain can call.

Hand 5

Villain seemed to be shoving a large range - I snap called. Winning would put me close to the chip lead. I thought it was a good spot to try and get a "bully" stack. It seems like a pretty marginal spot though, not sure if I should wait for better as I was already sitting on a pretty good stack.
Middling suited Aces are pretty standard call jam hands vs wide shoving ranges, so you're ok (the fact Villain ended up dominated is evidence to this).

Hand 6

Shortly after the previous hand, was concerned with being low M, and was looking for spots to double up or steal blinds. I ended up getting a respectable stack again through blind stealing. Should I shove here? I figured I would be flipping for a double up a lot of the time when called (if I shoved). The only reason I didn't is because I had improved my stack with several steals since the previous hand already, and felt like I was in pretty good shape and could consider folding to a shove. Good? Terrible?
In a CC freeroll ranges are gonna be tight, so minraise is fine. If you get shoved on you can't fold though, because shoving over you is very exploitative and will usually be done with ranges more than light enough to justify a cal (plus there's tons of dead money in pot).

Hand 7
I'm 90% sure this is completely standard. I read the definition of M in a post on here a while back, but I don't know shoving ranges based on it. I just knew my stack was very few M and had been for a while.
That's super standard, no worries.

Hand 8

This was right after the previous hand. Again, pretty sure this is standard, but I don't really know the shoving ranges. K high good or wait for A high?
Your hand there is pretty ragged. With M that low a case could be made you need to ship, but I might wait till at least K8 or something.


Another thing I was never sure of throughout the tourney was bet sizing. Any quick and easy guide for that?
2/3 is standard and usually good. it lays you odds comfortable enough to imply hit odds for strong draws, it prevents villains from exploiting an ABC strategy by refusing to pay you off (since a fit/fold AFq is about 40%, at which 2/3 bets will break even if everyone folds), and it lets you cbet bluff with good odds (since you will only need people to fold 40% to break even). Other sizings are texture-dependent or exploitative/situational.

Worst hand of the tourney

I think I need to snap fold here. I still don't have a great feel for tournaments and what hands are shoving here, but what exactly am I beating? I gotta be way behind most of the time, right? But I dunno.. 1.7k to win 3.2k. What do you guys think? (Now that I've thought about it more I actually think calling isn't that bad. I guess I'm ahead of unpaired single clubs, and A9-AT, behind AJ and AK, with AJ less likely due to the small cbet. His range might be even wider than A9 too. Hard to know with the little info I have. So I guess the call was OK. Still could have been played better.)
I think you're OK here. Check/call donk turn is a massively weird line that confuses people and can induce strainge reactions, including spazzing out. A random disconnected AQ is way too merged for HIM to have shoved (that was bad), but a laggy reg has plenty of air when he shoves here because wtf are you doing HE has initiative.
 
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Thanks for the feed back Aleks. Next time I'm gonna be better prepared to get aggressive early while everyone's still deep :)

All in all, I thought this tournament was a lot of fun and was a nice break from losing cash games :D
 
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Sizing on 1 and 2 are too big...especially 2 imho.

I don't mind the call off with A9 with the overlay, but keep in mind there are some uber nitty types in CC freerolls that this would be a fold to....but in a vacuum its a call.

I like your barrel on #4...and for a bunch of reasons.

You should be Cbetting almost 100% of the time in that spot...


Shoving a King is fine there...

The last hand is just an abortion; I have no idea what you are thinking on the flop and am constantly amazed by how often I see this OOP.

In position is a different story, but OOP.....you cannot float here.
 
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I don't really play any tourneys, so although I was pleased with my play today, I had a lot of places where I wasn't sure if I was making wise plays, and I wanted to post a few spots where I had questions and get a general critique.

Hand 1
Should I be cbetting here? I felt pretty uncomfortable getting too aggressive post flop with my limited number of chips and zero knowledge of villains. Other than that my thinking was that he probably missed the flop and my hand is best, and if he did hit it I have overcards, so I called.

You only bet to accomplish something. You should C-bet about 80% of the time, if IP and depending on circumstances. If OOP, you would C-bet to find out where you are or to build a pot. So, no hand yet, no pot, no bet. However, had you C-bet, I would think the Villain would 3-bet you; Now you are OOP facing a raise. Not fun, with no hand. Then, a river bet by villain would force you to fold, unless you know he is capable of this kind of bluff. Or you improve, which you did not. IMO, you did O.K. I would have checked that river, too. Betting river OOP gives villain reason to bluff by raising your bet. How much are you going to call without a hand? Good play.

Hand 2
I think this was probably way too nitty. Villain was fairly loose, but not enough hands to be sure of anything. Do you like call or 3bet better? Is fold terrible? I was trying to play very tight/safe early on, since all villains were unknown.

Not at all. You have to have a stronger hand to call a raise with than to raise with yourself in MP. If you would have flopped a K, he shows AK. You flop a J, he shows AJ. Get it? Good fold.

Hand 3

Here I didn't want to raise multiway, because I couldn't stand a reraise, and didn't want to get it in here with a draw, so I check/called to evaluate the action. Should I lead turn? I didn't think I would fold out anything that I wasn't beating.

You have the top nut flush draw (absent of st8 flush). You could easily stand a re-raise, you have 15 outs. I would 3-bet the flop if IP. If he 4-bets/ shoves, you still have 15 outs and his stack covered. What could he have? Top pair, most likely (he had 2nd pair). Doubt he wants to shove with only one pair into a possible flush and an over card. Still, MTT is survival, you are OOP, and do not want to call with a draw, you want to be the aggressor. I think he made a info bet. Notice he checked the turn, worried about the callers.

Hand 4

Here I felt like he didn't have anything strong, as it was a limped pot, so I played aggressively to hopefully fold out most of his hands. Played correctly?

You are in position, with 15 outs. Looks good.

Hand 5

Villain seemed to be shoving a large range - I snap called. Winning would put me close to the chip lead. I thought it was a good spot to try and get a "bully" stack. It seems like a pretty marginal spot though, not sure if I should wait for better as I was already sitting on a pretty good stack.

It was almost 1/2 your stack (32 vs 13) to call that. Would you have done that if SB was a bigger stack than yours? Nope. Then, why here? Let him have it. You were thinking about a chip lead if you won, but did not think about what would happen if you lost, right?

Hand 6

Shortly after the previous hand, was concerned with being low M, and was looking for spots to double up or steal blinds. I ended up getting a respectable stack again through blind stealing. Should I shove here? I figured I would be flipping for a double up a lot of the time when called (if I shoved). The only reason I didn't is because I had improved my stack with several steals since the previous hand already, and felt like I was in pretty good shape and could consider folding to a shove. Good? Terrible?

8 folds to a min-raise? Nice. I would have made it 3x preflop, but I always bet 3x. It worked out. Amazed you did not get one caller. Nice, nice.

Hand 7
I'm 90% sure this is completely standard. I read the definition of M in a post on here a while back, but I don't know shoving ranges based on it. I just knew my stack was very few M and had been for a while.

On the button with the blinds yet to act, shove with 5's? I would do that w 99 and above only at the least, unless BB/SB way shorter than you. With small pairs, you want to see a flop as cheap as possible. You know if he has any ace or a pair larger than 5's he will call a button shove (it looks weak, like a steal if folded around to you and u shove) By doing a 3x preflop in position, you could easily bluff an ace if/when it falls. He could also just shove on any flop before you get to act, so it gets tricky with unimproved 5's. Therefore limp button or enter pot w your standard raise. That would have only cost you 800.00 to see a flop or you had to fold when/if he shoves out of the blind. Look at BB/SB stack size (screw the M) and ask what it leaves you with if you lose. Less than 5 BB's = No shove.

Hand 8

This was right after the previous hand. Again, pretty sure this is standard, but I don't really know the shoving ranges. K high good or wait for A high?

Wait until you are IP with a better hand; K6 is horrible with so many left to act. Plus, after losing such a large pot right before, you look like you are desperate (under 5 BB's you are!). Ace would have been better. Since you could wait a few before paying another BB, you can wait to shove with a better hand. Position, position, position!


So all pretty basic stuff. Anyone know where a shove chart relating to M can be found? I looked for one during tourney but couldn't find one that made sense to me. I found one for 9 max SnG, but I think it was for turbos.

Another thing I was never sure of throughout the tourney was bet sizing. Any quick and easy guide for that?


Guess I'll add this to get opinions.

Worst hand of the tourney

I think I need to snap fold here. I still don't have a great feel for tournaments and what hands are shoving here, but what exactly am I beating? I gotta be way behind most of the time, right? But I dunno.. 1.7k to win 3.2k. What do you guys think? (Now that I've thought about it more I actually think calling isn't that bad. I guess I'm ahead of unpaired single clubs, and A9-AT, behind AJ and AK, with AJ less likely due to the small cbet. His range might be even wider than A9 too. Hard to know with the little info I have. So I guess the call was OK. Still could have been played better.)

No comment, you have worn me out already, lol

How should I have played it differently?
That M. That fraking figure has been the bane of more players. Screw that figure, when starting out. SCREW IT!! I doubt anyone else was tracking that number. Start by simply ignoring the "M" and sticking to the simple; Blinds and stack sizes. 400 BB and a 4k stack = "I have 10 BB's", etc. It's a lot easier than the "M" figure, which takes other things into account, like the ante. It gives you a odd figure hard to take advantage of when new. Leave it for the pros who seem to love it. Still, you ever hear them on poker after dark talking about the "M" figure? On the WPT? Hear them toss that back and forth on the wsop broadcasts? NOPE. They talk blinds/stack sizes. You can figure that out in your head. Which concerns you more: number of blinds left or number of antes left? Once you get that down pat, then try the M number if you want. It's just confusing because if you did not fully understand what the M tells you, you lose track of what really matters; # of Blinds left. You end up with a number that tells you about the blinds and ante and soon you are lost. But, boy howdy, it sure makes a HUD tracking program look slick, don't it? You made some clear mistakes by ignoring the amount of your villains blinds/stack size vs yours. IMO, your competition loves folks who bean count too much. You are sitting there looking at a number that does not stand out like the obvious size of your stack in relation to the others does.

I hope this helps, you seem to be well on your way.
 
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Shoving a King is fine there...

K-6 off, in middle position, with 6 players left to act/respond to raise? Isn't K-rag (off suit, no less), better when you know you will be heads up, like it folds around to SB, and you shove against the BB, not possibly facing 2 or more callers? I understand he was short, but still, only a 50 ante....could have waited for later position and better hand, no?
 
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You only bet to accomplish something. You should C-bet about 80% of the time, if IP and depending on circumstances. If OOP, you would C-bet to find out where you are or to build a pot. So, no hand yet, no pot, no bet. However, had you C-bet, I would think the Villain would 3-bet you; Now you are OOP facing a raise. Not fun, with no hand.
The board has barrelable combos we can rep, and we have a weak hand so we're justified in trying to get Villain off his total air and some marginal better hands like weak pairs -- we have enough FE to do that. I'm not sure why you think villain would raise here (not 3-bet, that requires a raise first), since the flop is low and fairly drawy, so most hands that continue are naked draws with the occasional AT and OPs. Villain only raises with QQ+, sets and combo draws (unless he's sick aggro and will raise as a semibluff with simple draws), so most of the time we can expect peel or fold. And in that board any overcard, a completed flush, straight or of course our own hand, will allow us to fire again and shut down the 2/3 of his range that was drawing to something else.

So, as long as we keep our sizing reasonable (2/3 pot is probably fine), we can fire at least two barrels easy.

Not at all. You have to have a stronger hand to call a raise with than to raise with yourself in MP. If you would have flopped a K, he shows AK. You flop a J, he shows AJ. Get it?
As long as you don't get into bad RIO situations from not getting THAT you should be good, because you can imply your odds for hitting an OESD or FD (or made monsters sometimes). When Villain has strong initiative and we have position, getting paid off on our big hands is not difficult. And this is a tight game so you don't have to worry about overcalls.
 
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The board has barrelable combos we can rep, and we have a weak hand so we're justified in trying to get Villain off his total air and some marginal better hands like weak pairs -- we have enough FE to do that. I'm not sure why you think villain would raise here (not 3-bet, that requires a raise first), since the flop is low and fairly drawy, so most hands that continue are naked draws with the occasional AT and OPs. Villain only raises with QQ+, sets and combo draws (unless he's sick aggro and will raise as a semibluff with simple draws), so most of the time we can expect peel or fold. And in that board any overcard, a completed flush, straight or of course our own hand, will allow us to fire again and shut down the 2/3 of his range that was drawing to something else.

So, as long as we keep our sizing reasonable (2/3 pot is probably fine), we can fire at least two barrels easy.

Well, I was thinking IF hero had C-bet the flop IP with no hand, then the UTG possibly check raises (That was my 3-bet comment, sorry. Meant check raise. Hey, it was 8 hands, cut me some slack, lol)...Then what do you do with no hand? A check raise looks strong here (screams set/over pair or air). Not too many lead into the last raiser OOP, even with a good hand (I don't see it as much, could be wrong, what do you think?). So, they check raise instead, right? If the type to hold an overpair and check the flop OOP they are waiting to do just that; or just bluff with a check raise repping that. And hero has no hand. Also, Villain is going to assume Hero has a big hand since he 3-bet preflop, maybe AA or AK, right? So villain either folds when you Cbet or check raises or floats; If he just folds, you do not catch him bluffing, like he did on the turn (therefore I thought check was best). If he check raises, you are in a tougher spot (not good if you call and he continues firing now on turn and river and you have nada). And if he just calls (floats, right?) you also think he has something and fold to a large river bet.

As long as you don't get into bad RIO situations from not getting THAT you should be good, because you can imply your odds for hitting an OESD or FD (or made monsters sometimes). When Villain has strong initiative and we have position, getting paid off on our big hands is not difficult. And this is a tight game so you don't have to worry about overcalls.

If it is a tight game as you say, they are most likely opening up UTG with better than KJ, right? All those hands could have you drawing dead with OESD if you let them make it to the turn or river (AK-Q, KQ suited). They could easily flop a higher st8 right along with you. And AA, KK, QQ could hit a set and then your OESD better flop AND come through; they will not fold an overpair or a set. And more money is lost in the middle than early or late. What if you call w KJ in middle and the button 3-bets it? Then what? Flat call it? Fold and lose those chips you called with? You are no longer in position.

SEE? This is why I love poker!!!
 
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1) If villain CRs we just fold. I'm counting on that not being likely.

2) We're going after flushes moreso than SDs. The only OESD KJ flops is QT (will happen 5%-ish), and that's a draw to the nuts. The only hand that can beat us is AK, and we have blockers to both that one and its outs.

3) A set is a cooler. Top set is an even bigger cooler. Sets are one of the unlikeliest hands in Hold em.

4) We have position, so that we can get paid very easily if Villain has a hand. If he has KK/AA and the flop comes down like T92 two-tone, we can get paid when we complete the flush fairly easily unless he bets big. And if he does we can get out for cheap and HE doesn't get paid off because, again, we have position.

5) Overbets and squeezes are also relatively unlikely because this is a tight game and a big open + flat shows massive strength so that people won't **** around with non-premiums. I was the biggest lag in that particular table and I doubt I would have attempted a squeeze bluff very often.
 
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your moves are alright but I really don't like how you called in Hand 5.. Even AK preflop is weak and can be beaten with pretty much everything (in my personal experience AK never wins).
 
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your moves are alright but I really don't like how you called in Hand 5.. Even AK preflop is weak and can be beaten with pretty much everything (in my personal experience AK never wins).
PT4 says I win about 100BB/100h with it.

My tracker > your experience. You probably just don't know how to play that hand. ;)
 
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your moves are alright but I really don't like how you called in Hand 5.. Even AK preflop is weak and can be beaten with pretty much everything (in my personal experience AK never wins).

PT4 says I win about 100BB/100h with it.

My tracker > your experience. You probably just don't know how to play that hand. ;)

AK is a very strong hand. It has numerous advantages (High card w top kicker, nut st8 and flush draws, etc;). I would recommend, UnNa7uRal, that you investigate them. It will be to your ultimate benefit. Yes, it can lose, but so can any hand. But they are the top 2 cards in the deck, so you must learn to take advantage of them.

Want proof? Take any other unpaired hand against them st8 up; Lay down both hands on the table and start laying out 5 cards. Count how often AK wins and how many times it loses. AK will murder any other unpaired hand through the whole deck, every time. Even AQ! AK will win every single time the board does not improve AQ, as there are no higher kickers than a K. Do it several times, going through the entire remainder of the deck, and you will see that it also sometimes kills AQ even when that hand does improve!
 
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Mmmm... Lots of interesting hand analysis in this forum, which could help to make my skills better, RESPECT FOR ALL! :)
 
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I didn't review the HH's posted (yet) but honestly it makes a HUGE difference in these games who villain is (or 'are').
I would take a different line based on villain ALOT of the time (this is something that is fun about the CC games - - you get some history vs. different members so that at times there's actually some poker goin' on... ie. some players are strictly level 1 thinkers but there are others where you can take it much further (ie. he's thinking about what I'm thinking he's thinking etc. & beyond). Others are huge spewtards who are mashing with no clue or thought as to what you have or what you're thinking. Others who'll be flatting in spots when effective stacks are nowhere near enough to be flatting pre. Others who will raise flop 'to see where they're at'... thinking that this will actually give themselves some info.??? Others who are defending blinds & donk-betting 80% of the time. Others who are tight/weak & playin' fit or fold postflop. Others who are raising in LP because they believe they're 'supposed to' but actually fold to 3-bet shoves from 10-12bb stacks (because they're raising to steal without a plan or without thinking ahead & considering stack sizes yet to act).
It goes on & on. There's quite a mix of players. Some who are real new, some who are quite competent and some who are really good (yes & some who are real bad). Others who are real bad & don't even know it.... yet ;) You'll get to know them over time & what a great oppurtunity to learn to adjust with lots of history & a chance for some metagame stuff.
(the last hand you posted... villain was 'me')
 
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Hand #8 is a shove!
& with antes in that spot you could be shoving ~ top40% 22+, A2o+, K6, K4s, Q8,Q6s,.... 76s
 
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I think you are too loose, and you are doing too many coin flips. The point of tournaments are to steal blinds and outplay opponents postflop. Going all in with 55 will only generate calls better than your hand. In my opinion, you should have stolen more blinds, and dodged coinflips.
 
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