Cards, position or stack?

I have, according to myself, a good question for you all.
When you're playing a tournement (high, low or freeroll) what do you prefer to do? Play your position, stranght of your hand or the size of your stack?

How many % of your hands do you play? I know that there's many stats, but I won't go through them all.

One last question:
How many % of your showdowns do you win in a MTT ?

I like to play a mix of all the things going on at the table.
My cards got an influence depending on the strenght, my position got a strenght depending on who's acting after me, and my stack size can scare some players away if I'm a big stack at the given time.

I don't really know how many hands I play, but I know a guy who plays 80-90% of his hands. The strange thing is, that he's in top 10 pretty often, which I can't understand. He has made many suckouts with hands like Q2 and QQ2 on the flop. It's really insane!

When I go to showdown with some player, I usually win.
My avg. showdown-win % is 86%.
Usually I'm at 90-96%, but sometimes it slips, of course.

I'd like to hear what you think about the VERY lose play I told you about before, and of course how you guys play.

Regards!

I think stack size is the most important, then position, then strength of your cards. I can't answer your second question because I don't play mtt. Somepeople will think position is most important and they may be right.

The guy that plays 80 to 90 percent of hands is the guy that knows that most people aren't willing to risk their tourney lives without a very strong hand unless they are short stacked. He used this to just pound on the entire table because it is extremely difficult to get a read on hands for this type of strategy. You combine the chipping away with a bad beat or two and that equals a huge stack for the maniac.

And whats most important depends on how the table and the tourney is playing.

dwolfg said:

The guy that plays 80 to 90 percent of hands is the guy that knows that most people aren't willing to risk their tourney lives without a very strong hand unless they are short stacked. He used this to just pound on the entire table because it is extremely difficult to get a read on hands for this type of strategy. You combine the chipping away with a bad beat or two and that equals a huge stack for the maniac.

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Playing 80-90% of hands is losing player. You can't play that many hands and expect to win. Trust me

@ tomh7795
I think you're right regarding the rank of important-ness (or whatever it's called! haha!) But I think that your hand stranght cobined with your position is one of the most important things. Many people thinks that AJ or A10 is great hands UTG and UTG+1. Then again, that kind of players will be to our advantage!

@ dwolfg
I just can't understand that kind of play.
I mean, I win like almost 90% of my showdowns.
The "pounding guy" wins like 30-50%, depending on how many who's willing to call all the way.
And still he ends up being in the top 10 many times.
It's really unusual if you ask me, don't you think?

tomh7795 said:

Playing 80-90% of hands is losing player. You can't play that many hands and expect to win. Trust me

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I never said it was winning poker, I'm just explaining how that player gets a big stack. I know adaptability is the key to winning poker.

Niantic said:

@ tomh7795
I think you're right regarding the rank of important-ness (or whatever it's called! haha!) But I think that your hand stranght cobined with your position is one of the most important things. Many people thinks that AJ or A10 is great hands UTG and UTG+1. Then again, that kind of players will be to our advantage!

@ dwolfg
I just can't understand that kind of play.
I mean, I win like almost 90% of my showdowns.
The "pounding guy" wins like 30-50%, depending on how many who's willing to call all the way.
And still he ends up being in the top 10 many times.
It's really unusual if you ask me, don't you think?

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The guy that pounds the table doesn't go to showdowns as often because most people are not willing to risk their whole stack on weak hands, which the maniac forces people to do. Then when someone tries to double up on a73 rainbow with ak and maniac turns over 73 he/she gets even stronger.

dwolfg said:

I never said it was winning poker, I'm just explaining how that player gets a big stack. I know adaptability is the key to winning poker.

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Okay I was just wondering. I never said that you were a player who plays 80% of hands.

Well yes I should have put down that early pos you should play a smaller range then in middle and late position.

A mix of both 3...

I use to win 80-90% of showdowns

I think in the order would be position, then stack size, then cards

one thing I like to do if I'm really big and the table is tight, is raising 4x the bb pre flop with any two cards, because usually if you do this, people fold more than 4 straight rounds, then if you eventually get called you can fold by the flop and still gets more chips than when you started if you dont hit anything, and of course this turns your read pretty hard, and you can take advantage when you have a strong hand

i used to wait for good cards but its bs and i would get mad when some donk called me with nothing .. so now i only play position unless of course i have jacks to aces, limp AK utg unless the blinds are high then i'll raise it.

Almost always raise in position or if im short ill move in with any 2 if i'm first to act. But if i have like a superstack and we're close to bubble i will bully from any pos.

So i prefer, position then size of stack and lastly cards

Nadi said:

i used to wait for good cards but its bs and i would get mad when some donk called me with nothing .. so now i only play position unless of course i have jacks to aces, limp AK utg unless the blinds are high then i'll raise it.

Almost always raise in position or if im short ill move in with any 2 if i'm first to act. But if i have like a superstack and we're close to bubble i will bully from any pos.

So i prefer, position then size of stack and lastly cards

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You got mad when a player called you while your holding a strong hand?

Don't push all in if your first to act if your short (8-12bb).

You raise utg with AK.

Bullying fom any position is er... Okay. You should bully from late and maybe middle position

Sometimes, depending on the stack I got at the given time, I like to bully even from UTG or UTG+1. And when I do with a weak hand, I sometimes like to show them that it was a bluff!

I've never stole from utg. Maybe if thee bb is very tight. If you show your cards then the next time you raise from utg. You better have the goods. I wouldn't suggest steal from early pos. If you do don't do it with 59 off do it sc. Hands that are playable on the flop

The worst hand I've done it with is 108 off, and noone called me. It's usually a minimum raise because of the chance that other people might have a huge hand and then re-raise me.

tomh7795 said:

You got mad when a player called you while your holding a strong hand?

Don't push all in if your first to act if your short (8-12bb).

You raise utg with AK.

Bullying fom any position is er... Okay. You should bully from late and maybe middle position

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of course i get upset when people call me with weak cards when im holding a monster (eg 23 vs pocket aces), i know i'm supposed to win a majority in this situation but doesn't seem to really pan out that way for me, therefore the frustration there.

let me clarify that i meant if short i would ship it in middle to late position as long as im first to the pot.

the purpose of the raise is to gain information from your opponent so when the blinds are low and you put in a 5X bb raise utg and you get 5 callers because the raise compared to their stack size is so insignificant.. my raise is just wasted money. That's why i will always limp AK Even ACES when my raise isn't serving its purpose and when the blinds are so low. Seems to me that when the blinds are higher you get more respect out of your raises compared to early stages in the tourney where everyone just wants to see a cheap flop.

both and more, cards are about poistion and stack, aswell as knowing your table imgage, knowing the table image of your opponents, knowing where your at in a tournament, knowing if you can bully or not. alot more things come into play rather than postion or stack.

I would say it all depends on a lot of factors so cant really say any one is more important or less important at any given time. There will be situations in which any of the 3 could be your determining factor. I like trying different things and recently depending on positon greatly varied the strength of my hand to a much broader opening range and have had great success then just playing tag. You really improve your post flop play as long as you know when to get away from a dangerous hand playing any 2 random cards. I have found I am much better with this at live play then online. Its amazing how many times I have cracked Aces and Kings with 2 low suited connectors.

Most important is the strength of your hand!
The style of your opponents is important too!
That decides if the position is better than your chip stack....:call:

i guess I worry most about position, stack sizes aren't really important, unless there is a huge disparity, but i like sng's.

For me, the strength of my hand is one of the LEAST deciding factors, unless it is very strong or very weak, and even then it depends. As mentioned a few times, so many factors are important, and they are almost always situational. Depending on my opponents, my stack and my table image I may raise on the button with ATC. I will always bet or re raise a premium hand, regardless of position. The farther I get in a MTT or SnG, the more info I have on my opponents, and the more I will vary my play accordingly. If I have enough info, I will play my oponents, as opposed to playing my cards.