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why there are only cap cash games?
why cant pokerstars or any other poker site make some cap tournamets or sit and go in which there is a cap of 30 or 40 bb on every hand? i think it will make the game more active and deepstack players will play each other more because there is no risk to lose their entire chipstack on a cooler or a bad beat.
 
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a betting cap? I believe that is only applicable in limit games. In no limit games, there is no cap.
So if you're playing a limit tournament, the cap would apply. No limit, no cap.
 
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Because the objective of NL hold em tournaments is to win the tournament and having the flexibility to put anyone on their tournament life is something very important.

CAP tournaments would be lol bad and would only benefit the absolute worse players.
 
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hey rock, that does defeat the purpose of a NL tourney, but I'm thinking your reffering to freerolls. Now pokerstars used to run the shark cage tourneys in the past where preflop it was pot limit an once the flop came everything was back to normal NL hold'em. Wonder what ever happened to them they were fun an i agree it is a good idea in the freeroll world
 
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hey rock, that does defeat the purpose of a NL tourney, but I'm thinking your reffering to freerolls. Now pokerstars used to run the shark cage tourneys in the past where preflop it was pot limit an once the flop came everything was back to normal NL hold'em. Wonder what ever happened to them they were fun an i agree it is a good idea in the freeroll world


I completely disagree with you. cap tournaments arent NL holdem tournaments so it doesnt defeat the purpose of NL holdem, i think it would be a mixed of nl and fixed limit holdem i mean you can bet as much as you want till you reach 40 or 50 bb which actually is quite a lot considering that most of the tournaments start with 150 or even 75 bb, so imagine having a deep stack of 200 or more blinds, you can confortable play without having to risk your entire chipstack against other bigstack players. the purpose of this poker variant is to reward players with bigger stacks to take some risk against each other without the fear of losing all their chips. also it will make players more active at the beginning of the tournament because the is no chance to get eliminated with a stack bigger than 40 or 50 bb which i think its the best amount of blinds to capped.
 
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Interesting idea, guess it would increase the time of the tourny and lead to people playing less? But think it would be worth having one or two a week on the main sites.
 
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Interesting idea, guess it would increase the time of the tourny and lead to people playing less? But think it would be worth having one or two a week on the main sites.


totally agree. they can make one or two a week and see what happens. if a good amount of players are into it they can make them regular otherwise they could just remove them from the site simple as that. personally i have been expecting these tournment since i saw the cap games years ago in cash games which is pretty low in my opinion (only 20bb at pokerstars)
 
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Very interesting idea, seems like it would help to combat the ridiculous variance experienced in MTT. In particular I'd like to see this in a freeroll so people could try it out before claiming it's the spawn of satan. I understand some people's reluctance to the idea, but I'm sure plenty of people thought 'NL CAP' games were a stupid idea at first too (ie: why not just play limit) and now they've become a standard offering.
 
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Very interesting idea, seems like it would help to combat the ridiculous variance experienced in MTT. In particular I'd like to see this in a freeroll so people could try it out before claiming it's the spawn of satan. I understand some people's reluctance to the idea, but I'm sure plenty of people thought 'NL CAP' games were a stupid idea at first too (ie: why not just play limit) and now they've become a standard offering.


i disagree with pokerstars cash cap games because 20 bb cap doesnt allow players to develop a postflop game and most of the game is just preflop strategy. what pokerstars should IMO is make some cap games tables with 30, 40 and 50bb max to allow players more post flop action without risking their deepstacks of 200 or more bb and that would also avoid ratholing in most cases.
 
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There's always tables without cap if you don't like them :p I can't play on stars (USA) but you might give ACR a try, their NL Cap games are 30bb (.60 on 2NL, 1.50 on 5NL, etc)
 
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There's always tables without cap if you don't like them :p I can't play on stars (USA) but you might give ACR a try, their NL Cap games are 30bb (.60 on 2NL, 1.50 on 5NL, etc)


whats the big deal for americans to play on stars?, almost the entire world can play on this site why cant you then? i just dont get this doj issue.
 
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whats the big deal for americans to play on stars?

Seems an awful lot of pro players come from US, it must be because we're too good :rofl:

More likely it's because as a country we owe the rest of the world our GDP (thus our money is worthless) :deal:

Seriously though, hopefully this is the year...
 
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play pl holdem, there is at least one tourney on stars if I recall that is pl....closest your going to get to a "cap" outside of FL holdem.
 
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play pl holdem, there is at least one tourney on stars if I recall that is pl....closest your going to get to a "cap" outside of FL holdem.


yeah but it just not the same. pl holdem isnt that much different from nl holdem i mean you can still go all in preflop and also i dont like to have a limit on how much I can bet. i mean i would like to have a cap of 50bb in each hand, but if someone makes a raise and 2 other people call if i have pocket jacks or queens for example i would like to be able to bet 50 bb to isolate players. Also in pl holdem is more difficult to bluff because you can only make a pot bet so you might not be able to make players fold their straights or flush project that easy.
 
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I wonder how many entrants those tourneys would get?

I have a feeling they might cap out at '1'
 
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I wonder how many entrants those tourneys would get?

I have a feeling they might cap out at '1'


wanna bet? i can guarantee you that this cap tournaments will be way more popular than fl and pl games.
 
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how can i make a poll regarding this subject?
 
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I wonder how many entrants those tourneys would get?

I have a feeling they might cap out at '1'

i agree it is a good idea in the freeroll world

think it would be worth having one or two a week on the main sites.

Nah... Between OP, the 2 ppl I quoted, and myself; it'd cap at a minimum of 4 :p

how can i make a poll regarding this subject?

You can make polls easily, quickly, and for free at strawpoll.

There's a poll for this topic HERE, hope we get a few people's input
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Nah... Between OP, the 2 ppl I quoted, and myself; it'd cap at a minimum of 4 :p



You can make polls easily, quickly, and for free at strawpoll.

There's a poll for this topic HERE, hope we get a few people's input
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i already vote on that pole and made one here in cardschat. there will be more than 1 player on this type of tournament, in fact i think they are going to be quite successful especially on lower limits where fishes go all in preflop with more than 100 bb. i dont really understand another comment saying that these type of tournaments will benefit bad players. in fact it will benefit good players because even if you get bad beat from a bad player in some cases you will still have a good amount of chips to keep playing and make a comeback.
also this cap tournaments wont affect middle and endgame at all because most of the time players will have even less than 40 or 30 bb so i dont get all the negative comments about these tournaments.
 
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wanna bet? i can guarantee you that this cap tournaments will be way more popular than fl and pl games.

And how popular are they these days? :confused:

This idea is terrible.
 
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And how popular are they these days? :confused:

This idea is terrible.

lol i wanna see this type of games on pokerstars or any other poker site and see what happens, thats the only way to measure the popularity of the game not on a poker forum. players need to try the game before deciding whether they like this type of tournaments or not. if they arent popular on a reasonable amount of time like a week or even a month poker sites can easily remove them.
i would like you to tell me why do CAP cash games exist then?
 
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